121 Apple workers have until the end of January to choose.

I’m sure women will be stoked to have Apple relocate them to a state that could kill them.

  • jonne@infosec.pubEnglish
    112·
    10 months ago

    It’s just another stealth layoff. They’ve calculated that x% would rather quit than move, and that probably roughly corresponds with the amount of people they want to cut. On top of that, Texas probably provides tax incentives and has a cheaper labour pool and fewer labour protections.

    • NollijEnglish
      38·
      10 months ago

      Return to office has roughly 30% quit rate across the board.

      Job relocation, especially that far away, is nearly 100%. Very few people are willing to uproot their entire lives, and those of their family, just for a job.

      In effect, Apple has decided to lay off this entire office and hire a new one in Texas.

    • namingthingsiseasy@programming.devEnglish
      131·
      10 months ago

      Speaking of labour protections, is this even legal? Or is it a case of illegal, but good luck with the courts? I would think that at least California would have protections against something like this.

      For example, let’s just consider housing: imagine you bought a house when interest rates were 3% - now they can just force you to sell it and buy a new one with a 9% rate (or force you to rent)?

      But I guess they can just call it a layoff instead so they can get away with it or something

      • NollijEnglish
        12·
        10 months ago

        It’s perfectly legal, unless there are some additional details not mentioned. For instance, if it amounted to discrimination on race, or was in retaliation for unionizing. What would be illegal about it? California can’t just force a company to stay in one place. Companies move offices, even headquarters, all the time.

        Your math would be covered by what’s known as a relocation package. Often, it’s a basic lump sum to (theoretically) cover the costs of moving. You can either accept it or not. Same for any pay adjustments that may come with it.

        Layoff isn’t a legal term. The closest would be terminated without cause, which is exactly what this is. Since California (along with every state that isn’t Montana) is an “At will” state, this again is perfectly legal.

        It’s a shitty decision, but there’s nothing stopping them from making it.

        • namingthingsiseasy@programming.devEnglish
          7·
          10 months ago

          Thanks for explaining. That’s insane. I guess the only real solution is to unionize. If there’s no legal protection, then I suppose a union is the only thing you can rely on to prevent yourself from getting fucked over like this.

          I sincerely hope people take their experiences from this dark period of history and learn from them.