I broke my phone a few months ago and I hadn’t use a phone since I didn’t need it until now. I’m willing to buy one that’s around under 500$. I’m thinking of getting google pixel maybe, any recommendations?
I broke my phone a few months ago and I hadn’t use a phone since I didn’t need it until now. I’m willing to buy one that’s around under 500$. I’m thinking of getting google pixel maybe, any recommendations?
The GrapheneOS is the only good security solution on phones right now, so check their website for supported models.
Some time ago I bought Pixel 3XL (used, not new) for pretty good price, so I suppose your budget is OK for that
For what its worth, been using graphene for two months now on a pixel 5 and I’m still amazed by how well it works. Can only second this path as someone who is really focused on privacy and security. There are a few inconveniences (updates, app availability, gpush services etc) but those are all very worth it for me to sacrifice in order to be secure and private. I don’t think you’ll regret. Tons of second hand (new) phones on the market where I come from so should be easy to get going
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Privacy can be controlled on application level, but there are a lot of system stuff that user can’t change and the best solution for system is GrapheneOS in terms of security, as I said in first comment.
Google is evil, no question about that, but Google is just a brand / label on the phone. Ironically, but most secure and privacy-friendly phone is Google Pixel without Google
As for privacy, any phone capable of running lineageos is fine, but lacks security
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OK, has any xiaomi phone audited by anybody?
What about proprietary hardware of all other vendors?
I’m not trying to say that pixel is perfect or something, I think whole mobile market is a proprietary shit, tbh. But you need phone anyway, so IMT just trying to tell that pixel smells less that xiaomi, Asus or anything else
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I’m not from USA and “cultism” is not for me, I’m enthusiast of open source and don’t trust proprietary software and hardware. Sadly, but there is no 100% hardware ready for end-users, so I’m just trying to find a balance.
Btw, any device has proprietary “security” components, so it’s all about “smells less”, not " trusted one".
My own opinion - GrapheneOS is good one, using it on Pixel devices is a trade-off.
Anyway, that thread comes to holywar and I don’t want to take part in it, my arguments and thoughts you can find in comments above, if you disagree with them - OK, I’m fine with it. Just shared my thoughts
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what do you recommend then?
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I can agree on Fairphone, but all other vendors… Are you joking?
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What should I use?
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I thought xiaomi is a chinese phone. is it safe?
The Graphene group account actually gave some good replies to that thread - you just don’t have a clue what you are talking about. The dev doesn’t solely trust Google just because - as they’ve stated many times - there just aren’t good alternative phones with decent security baselines.
I’m not even sure what you mean by “technical support for custom firmware” - Graphene pushes firmware updates with their OTAs.
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Well, one of my friends owns a Fairphone, and they told me that the worst thing about it is that Android updates take a age to be released: https://forum.fairphone.com/t/android-11-has-arrived-when-will-we-see-it-on-our-3s-and-3-s/64273/6
Whereas I had Android 11 on my graphene phone a few weeks after it was released by Google.
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I think it’s reasonable to presume that the founder of GrapheneOS would own the official GrapheneOS account on reddit. You’re the one that literally linked us to the discussion, so I’m not sure what point you’re trying to make with this.
security? well, do you know if there is any spyware or such like that in that phone? I don’t use gapps
You can say that for absolutely any phone/device in existence. As for Graphene, I’ve ran
tcpdump
on my router for a week against the device’s IP and confirmed that it only talks to the documented default connections on their site.cool. also a pixel?
Yes, Graphene is only officially supported on Pixels at this time.
I think I’ll buy a pixel then, I’m a bit too cautious so can I ask which model pixel do you own?
I run GrapheneOS on a Google Pixel 3 (secondhand). It’s a nice phone - made sure to extract the GCamera app in order to keep the camera app that actually works to the cameras full potential.
Other than that I just want to express my red hot hatred for all established mobile OSes. Its all crapware.
I have a 4a, which is supported until fall 2023. The newer 5 model doesn’t give you much more time.
alright, thanks for the suggestion. It’s decided.
edit; nvm
It’s not an easy solution. GrapheneOS is really good, but you need to be sure you will not need Google service and NEITHER MicroG, because those aren’t supported by GrapheneOS
Do you reaaally need google apps? It’s good that I don’t even have to option to use crapware like whatsapp. forcing people to talk to me through matrix
I don’t need any Google apps, and luckily I don’t need WhatsApp either, but some apps I use (like my goddamn bank) need Google services, and for this I rely on MicroG