Absolutely based write up Stamets, especially the part about the visual reboot. That’s something that I’ve struggled with as a new Trek fan talking to older Trekkies. I see no incongruity with Disco’s aesthetics compared to DS9, but rather an update. I’ve been shouted down on other forums for expressing that.
Yeah I know what you mean. I’ve shared the same feelings. The Kelvin timeline is more of a detraction than the DSC versions, granted the Kelvin timeline version isn’t an enormous detraction, just way shinier than one would expect. However I tend to give it a pass because it’s much a product of the time (mid-late 2000s) as TOS enterprise is of the 60s.
DSC feels… nice. Especially when you compare it inline with Enterprise. In 100 years that feels like a rather neat and tidy update to what we have, even those blue uniforms. I do love those uniforms.
I’m one of those older Trekkies who will complain about the aesthetic choices of the DSC sets.
My view is that there is a certain style with sci-fi shows of this nature that are part of their identity.
Large swings in design choices are very distracting to the point of being off putting to me unless there is good reason for it.
One thing I absolutely applaud Disney for is how they’ve managed to modernize but still keep the 70s aesthetics in their Star Wars shows. And I wish Trek had followed the same path.
Your complaint makes no sense and doesn’t hold up to any scrutiny. You are saying that there is a certain style but that style is not consistent within Trek. TOS was painfully 60s but the TOS Movies were very much not and actually quite similar to Discovery with its metallic and militaristic look. TNG? Same deal. Very 80s and then the Enterprise-E showed that same metallic look. DS9 has that look scattered in occasionally but it’s mostly alien design. Voyager has that militaristic look everywhere throughout the show, just updating the 80s TNG look to be a bit more modern. Then Enterprise did the same thing with the metallic militaristic look.
Moreover, the swing from TOS to TOS movies is more of a swing that Enterprise to Discovery, which I remind you takes place 80-90 years after so is just continuing those visuals.
Discovery, at no point, broke design moorings. It’s the same design elements that have been part of Trek since the first time Trek had money with the movies.
I find it so funny people complain about the looks of DSC when Gene Roddenberry wanted his ships to look like that when using the TOS movies as a template.
Disco is like a movie budget in terms of production quality, it’s insane. And I guess in terms of writing quality too? Since almost every nutrek movie sucked.
Absolutely based write up Stamets, especially the part about the visual reboot. That’s something that I’ve struggled with as a new Trek fan talking to older Trekkies. I see no incongruity with Disco’s aesthetics compared to DS9, but rather an update. I’ve been shouted down on other forums for expressing that.
Yeah I know what you mean. I’ve shared the same feelings. The Kelvin timeline is more of a detraction than the DSC versions, granted the Kelvin timeline version isn’t an enormous detraction, just way shinier than one would expect. However I tend to give it a pass because it’s much a product of the time (mid-late 2000s) as TOS enterprise is of the 60s.
DSC feels… nice. Especially when you compare it inline with Enterprise. In 100 years that feels like a rather neat and tidy update to what we have, even those blue uniforms. I do love those uniforms.
I’m one of those older Trekkies who will complain about the aesthetic choices of the DSC sets.
My view is that there is a certain style with sci-fi shows of this nature that are part of their identity.
Large swings in design choices are very distracting to the point of being off putting to me unless there is good reason for it.
One thing I absolutely applaud Disney for is how they’ve managed to modernize but still keep the 70s aesthetics in their Star Wars shows. And I wish Trek had followed the same path.
Your complaint makes no sense and doesn’t hold up to any scrutiny. You are saying that there is a certain style but that style is not consistent within Trek. TOS was painfully 60s but the TOS Movies were very much not and actually quite similar to Discovery with its metallic and militaristic look. TNG? Same deal. Very 80s and then the Enterprise-E showed that same metallic look. DS9 has that look scattered in occasionally but it’s mostly alien design. Voyager has that militaristic look everywhere throughout the show, just updating the 80s TNG look to be a bit more modern. Then Enterprise did the same thing with the metallic militaristic look.
Moreover, the swing from TOS to TOS movies is more of a swing that Enterprise to Discovery, which I remind you takes place 80-90 years after so is just continuing those visuals.
Discovery, at no point, broke design moorings. It’s the same design elements that have been part of Trek since the first time Trek had money with the movies.
I find it so funny people complain about the looks of DSC when Gene Roddenberry wanted his ships to look like that when using the TOS movies as a template.
Disco is like a movie budget in terms of production quality, it’s insane. And I guess in terms of writing quality too? Since almost every nutrek movie sucked.