Personally, I want nothing to do with them and I’m not willing to give them the benefit of the doubt. I moved to the Fediverse to get away from all these corpos.

  • Jure Repinc@lemmy.ml
    43·
    2 years ago

    Judging from their past and all the bad actions they have done in the past, bad for democracy, privacy, minorities and marginalised people and how openly they have a far/extreme-right bias. Well I feel extremely negative about them joining in. They were also part of destruction of another open/federated protocol in the past: they played big part in destroying XMPP/Jabber messaging. So I am afraid they will do their usual embrace, extend, and extinguish thing and their surveillance capitalist thing and yeah. no good. Best to block their instances outright.

    • Björn Tantau@feddit.de
      3·
      2 years ago

      Yeah, I was thinking of Jabber as well, when I heard this. For a brief period everything was perfect. Facebook and Google were both using Jabber. And even WhatsApp was using it, I think. So if you had an account somewhere you could actually chat with all your friends, totally unimpeded.

      EU should hurry up with their federation laws.

      • wagesj45@kbin.social
        22·
        2 years ago

        you can still use XMPP. i use it, my family uses it.

        hate facebook all you want (i certainly do) but dont act like normies would be living in a federated utopia without them. theyd be on whatever is closed source with the most number of people and the most advertising dollars behind it and the simplest user experience. normies like easy, and its hard to blame them.

        • SkyNTP@lemmy.ml
          31·
          2 years ago

          Yes and no. Normies use federated systems too: Websites and email.

          • wagesj45@kbin.social
            02·
            2 years ago

            true. but don’t forget that when these things were new, they came kicking and screaming. think of how many people retired during the PC/internet boom just so they wouldn’t have to deal with it all at work. the entire world changed and made websites/email a necessity to exist and survive. i don’t really see a minor flavor of tech like microblogging following that path. people will have an option between “easy and closed source” and “mildly just a little technical but with freedom” and will choose to go with whatever is easy.