we need teleportation frankly

  • MxM111@kbin.social
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    1
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    11 months ago

    Once again, ANALOGY, not metaphor. It is not just a figure of speech, but direct comparison.

    Of course, analogy does not prove a thing, however, all we are discussing here with you is not science, but philosophy. Is consciousness a structure which is upon substrate, or is it the substrate itself? Are you information or a physical body? These are not scientific questions, science can only answer how exactly the processes in the brain go, but it cannot explain the subjective feeling of “me”. Nearly by definition, - science deals with objective reality, not subjective perception.

    • Moira_Mayhem@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      11 months ago

      This is exactly why we have stagnated in most of our social development this last half century, people deliberately misunderstanding the point so they can feel justified in arguing it.

      So fucking done with that kind of thing.

      • MxM111@kbin.social
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        11 months ago

        This is why it is important to discuss definitions. But in this particular case (whether consciousness includes matter or not) the discussion belongs to philosophy.

        However, what you have mention, is quite often happens in philosophy itself. Take for example discussion of whether free will exists. The actual discussion is what free will is. But not everyone admits this.