• qyronEnglish
    934·
    11 months ago

    You know? That is not bad at all. Not bad at all. Why not? Why not the parallel universe version? Maybe they could use the chance to fix the dumpster fire the prequels were as well and perhaps even go along with Darth Jar-Jar.

    • LemmySoloHer@lemmy.worldEnglish
      46·
      11 months ago

      My (new) hope is that in the parallel universe version they didn’t do the special edition re-releases and kept in the original Mos Eisley Cantina scene.

      Remember friends, Hana shot first!

      • SkyezOpen@lemmy.worldEnglish
        441·
        11 months ago

        Han shot only. Greedo never got a shot off, Han straight up ended him in cold blood.

        • DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafeEnglish
          12·
          11 months ago

          Lest we forget, Greedo pointed a gun at him first, Han literally defended himself from a threat of lethal force. Jabba wanted Han dead or alive, and Greedo makes it clear he’d look forward to shooting.

          It’s part of why the edit is so galling, honestly, it was already justified.

      • qyronEnglish
        10·
        11 months ago

        Isn’t there a team doing an effort to “remaster” the originals and remove all the added digital garbage?

      • qyronEnglish
        9·
        11 months ago

        “But the audiences, the opinion panels, the surveys”

        It was a Starwars movie, it was a guaranteed success at the box. The viewers can handle a little disappointment for a better story.

        I could handle a non sensical character for a long stretch if at the peak of my rage that character became a such pivotal one, with a twist so unexpected and deep applied to it, it forced me to go back and review the entire story with new eyes.

  • paddirn@lemmy.worldEnglish
    301·
    11 months ago

    Where’s his mankini? I don’t remember Leia walking around topless.

      • flambonkscious@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        4·
        11 months ago

        Indeed! We’re not even walking over the same ground backwards, just dipping our toes into a few places where it’s convenient

  • barsoap@lemm.eeEnglish
    2815·
    11 months ago

    I’m not sure whether whoever made this is aware that the skimpy outfit wasn’t something Leia chose to wear, this was. Now I don’t mind canon-bending Jabba the Hutt into being gay or bi but “equality is when slave outfit” nah I’ll pass.

    • LesserAbe@lemmy.worldEnglish
      542·
      11 months ago

      In the movie universe it was a creepy evil guy who made her wear the slave outfit, and doesn’t make sense to get mad at a fictional character. In real life the people making the movie decide what outfits people wear, and we’re allowed to have opinions about that.

      • barsoap@lemm.eeEnglish
        55·
        11 months ago

        If we carry this to the meta level: The same people also decided that Leia kills Jabba in that very outfit and generally break a ton of damsel in distress tropes. Now you could say “But Ellen Ripley is just as if not even more badass, why not do that”, well, then you wouldn’t be messaging that getting demeaned by your captors doesn’t change anything about your capacity to badass, that the outfit, or Jabba’s general grossness, does not need to have power over your mind, just as horror doesn’t have power over Ripley’s mind. And you can’t just turn Star Wars into body horror so it has to have different hero characteristics.

        I see nothing wrong with that message.

        The same thing gender-swapped, though? Wouldn’t have the same impact as men typically get sexualised differently. It’s certainly been done in a sense, though, e.g. in Pulp Fiction.

        • LesserAbe@lemmy.worldEnglish
          5·
          11 months ago

          You’re overthinking it. I don’t generally have a problem with the plot of the movie or even these scenes, but I don’t think Leia specifically in a bikini outfit is a commentary on how we can overcome sexual stereotyping. It’s because people like seeing a sexy lady, including George Lucas.

          Didn’t Carrie Fisher say in an interview that Lucas said she couldn’t wear a bra because they don’t have bras in space?

          Also think about that scene in the prequels where they’re captive in the bug stadium and Natalie Portman is showing a lot of skin I guess because one of the monsters ripped her clothes. Why not make Anakin shirtless?

          • SpaceCowboy@lemmy.caEnglish
            2·
            11 months ago

            James Kirk had his shirt ripped in similar scenarios so many times it was something they made fun of in Galaxy Quest.

            And in the last movie I saw with Natalie Portman in it, Chris Hemsworth had his clothes completely removed.

            As a general rule, I think if the actor’s ok with it, then I’m ok with it.

          • barsoap@lemm.eeEnglish
            22·
            11 months ago

            Didn’t Carrie Fisher say in an interview that Lucas said she couldn’t wear a bra because they don’t have bras in space?

            She didn’t seem to be particularly pissed about it. I assume he had cinematographic reasons and made the comment in jest. Heck if it weren’t for people talking about it I would never have noticed, certainly didn’t notice as a teenage horndog which is saying something.

            Why not make Anakin shirtless?

            I’ll just leave this here. I only googled the scene the internet did the rest, don’t shoot the messenger.