Gotta show off that fictional rape baby. OR ELSE! It’s just a highly religiously influenced state fighting against the people not giving a shit about bad religious fiction.
“Don’t you take that rape baby display down! My fictional god raped that child to make that fictional baby, and you’re going to look at it every single year of your life!”
As far as I know (please correct me if I’m wrong), apart from religious texts and later references to the religion, his existence is only recorded by one historian (josephus), but it is under dispute whether that text is authentic.
A google of “historicity of Jesus” will turn up some results. The wiki link is one of at least three very similar wiki articles on the topic.
tl/dr - it’s generally accepted that Jesus was a historical person but all that can be confirmed from written accounts is 1) he was baptized and 2) he was crucified.
Of course people can and do question the independent contemporary Jewish (Josephus) or Roman (Tacitus and Pliny) sources, but they seem to be in the minority. Even the less shady version of Josephus’s passage suggests that he was talking about a person who existed.
I don’t have anything to add since I’m not Christian - merely surrounded by Christians. I’ve done a fair bit of reading trying to figure out what’s going on with all that.
Gotta show off that fictional rape baby. OR ELSE! It’s just a highly religiously influenced state fighting against the people not giving a shit about bad religious fiction.
“Don’t you take that rape baby display down! My fictional god raped that child to make that fictional baby, and you’re going to look at it every single year of your life!”
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Doesn’t really matter cuz the Jesus they care about is the fictional Jesus in the story.
As far as I know (please correct me if I’m wrong), apart from religious texts and later references to the religion, his existence is only recorded by one historian (josephus), but it is under dispute whether that text is authentic.
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Jesus being fictional isn’t exactly a mainstream view at the moment, but there isn’t much evidence for his existence.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_Jesus
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sources_for_the_historicity_of_Jesus
A google of “historicity of Jesus” will turn up some results. The wiki link is one of at least three very similar wiki articles on the topic.
tl/dr - it’s generally accepted that Jesus was a historical person but all that can be confirmed from written accounts is 1) he was baptized and 2) he was crucified.
Of course people can and do question the independent contemporary Jewish (Josephus) or Roman (Tacitus and Pliny) sources, but they seem to be in the minority. Even the less shady version of Josephus’s passage suggests that he was talking about a person who existed.
I don’t have anything to add since I’m not Christian - merely surrounded by Christians. I’ve done a fair bit of reading trying to figure out what’s going on with all that.
Your point being?
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Given the actual Jesus has as much in common with the legend as King Arthur does with whichever Brit king he’s based on, that’s just being pedantic
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So was Toby, no reason to rape his wife and blame it on a ghost.
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I’m just curious, is it a rape baby because Mary was underage?
Edit: Apparently the only reasons I’ve seen people mention are that:
She was raped because she was underage.
She was raped because she agreed to be impregnated by God, which has a power imbalance.
You all can judge for yourselves, but I just figured I’d save you the time of sifting through this fairly-useless comment chain.
I imagine they’re referring to Mary never really saying “yeah it’s fine if you impregnate me” before she gets impregnated.
That doesn’t really make sense.
Who told you that religion makes sense?
I didn’t know religion taught that Mary was raped.
“Immaculate conception” is suggestive of a Pill Cosby situation.
I’ve never heard those words before.
What would you call impregnating someone without consent? Sounds akin to rape to me.
But tbh that’s the least of the dodgy parts of Christianity/Abrahamic religions in general
Does religion teach that she didn’t give consent?
Yes.