• comrade19@lemmy.worldEnglish
    72·
    11 个月前

    Theres a good podcasts by stuff you should know on this. A scary thought to me is about kicking up sediment, causing zero visibility and they cant even see their hand in front of their goggles

    • bmsok@lemmy.worldEnglish
      34·
      11 个月前

      I’ve done training dives in man made quarries under zero visibility conditions. There’s no way in hell I’d go into an actual cave under those conditions.

      It was bad enough when you’d almost run into a purposefully placed sculpture or bathtub in that flooded quarry.

      You had to do a scavenger hunt to find stuff to pass your training and it was super disorienting.

      I don’t know if PADI still does that sort of thing or if it was unique to my training center conditions but it was wild.

      I’ll stick to open water, thank you very much.

      • subtext@lemmy.worldEnglish
        12·
        11 个月前

        Oh those sorts of training conditions absolutely still exist. I got my rescue diving certification in an old quarry much like what you said. Really helps make you appreciate the conditions when out in the Caribbean and you have >100 ft of visibility in every direction.

        • bmsok@lemmy.worldEnglish
          6·
          11 个月前

          Oh, I totally agree with you. It’s literally like night and day. You just transported me from those murky depths to those absolutely crystal clear Caribbean waters… So many fun memories in every condition.

    • figjam@midwest.socialEnglish
      3·
      11 个月前

      Caves are also not uniformly shaped, the way you go in could look a lot different on the way out.

      • undefinedValue@programming.devEnglish
        4·
        11 个月前

        If this is the clip I think it is it’s been the joke of the cave diving community. Cerrone has almost reached meme status for this interview. Watch the Dive Talk video reacting to this clip if you’re curious.

        • kmartburrito@lemmy.worldEnglish
          3·
          11 个月前

          Thanks for sharing, I’ll look that up and check it out, as I’m really curious about things like this that I’ve not experienced. Regardless of whether he’s an idiot or joke or whatever, I can totally see how a scenario like he describes could happen and how scary it could be. I definitely won’t be trying to learn how to cave dive anytime soon.

          Edit - here’s the link to the dive talk video if anyone is curious like me

            • kmartburrito@lemmy.worldEnglish
              6·
              11 个月前

              A couple takeaways for me after watching their breakdown -

              • They seemed to generally agree with a lot of his points, although he clearly came across to them as an inexperienced amateur with how he described things and gaps in his story.
              • Mofo should have NEVER let go of the line, or at minimum should have tied off on it when he went in to check on his buddy.
              • It was never clear in his story why he lost the line and had to exit the way that he did. When he said he came out of the silt on the further inwards side of the cave, he should have been able to just grab the line and then follow it out. That’s the biggest WTF to me after watching.
              • Regardless of this dude’s inexperience, and he’s not a person I follow or anything, my original comment of that being a nightmareish scenario is definitely still valid. Feeling/becoming lost (even if it was due to your own stupidity) and knowing you’re on a timer that’s accelerating due to your panic would absolutely freak me out, and is enough where I don’t think I’d ever want to cave dive. However, I’m usually a stickler for the rules, and I certainly wouldn’t have let go I don’t think. I’d want to ALWAYS be touching it or tied off against it. He was either a complete idiot or had an enormous amount of confidence in his abilities to free swim in an unfamiliar cave. Either way he was definitely showing his inexperience there.
              • Fuck underwater caves! Although it’s super fascinating to me, lol.
  • Cringe2793@lemmy.worldEnglish
    591·
    11 个月前

    There’s nothing in this cave worth dying for

    That’s precisely what someone would say if there’s stuff worth dying for in there.

    • AngryCommieKender@lemmy.worldEnglish
      131·
      11 个月前

      You took it further than I would. I’d listen to the sign these days, but there was absolutely a time that, that sign would have just been a challenge.

      Edit: for you grammar nerds. Do I need that comma? It seems like it should be there, but it also seems superfluous at the same time.

  • picnic@lemmy.worldEnglish
    34·
    11 个月前

    But what if there really is something valuable, wouldn’t they put a sign just like this to prevent people walzing in?

  • TheFriar@lemm.eeEnglish
    351·
    11 个月前

    There’s nothing in this cave worth dying for

    There’s nothing outside it to live for. Show me the damn cave

    • bbbbbbbbbbb@lemmy.worldEnglish
      12·
      11 个月前

      You have to ignore many different warnings to even get to the area youre not supposed to be in! First and foremost, humans by design do not breathe water, therefore we have no reason to be under water.

  • Beelzebob@lemmy.worldEnglish
    261·
    11 个月前

    I believe this is one of the caves at Ginnie Springs. If so, I know a guy who died in there. Cave diving is no joke.

  • hakunawazo@lemmy.worldEnglish
    25·
    11 个月前

    Okay, they almost had me convinced. But the second to last sentence is just crying out for a treasure.

    • Mamertine@lemmy.worldEnglish
      7·
      11 个月前

      That’s a good point. If I was hiding treasure in an underwater cave, I’d wanta sign like this at the entrance. It’d keep it out most of those medeling kids.

  • Skipper_the_Eyechild@lemmings.worldEnglish
    22·
    11 个月前

    Farther is the correct word, and has been confused with further for so long (over a hundred years), that they both mean exactly the same thing nowadays, so not sure why people are taking issues with it.

    Unless I’m missing something?

    • Subverb@lemmy.worldEnglish
      8·
      11 个月前

      I don’t see any comments of people taking issue with it. But words do mean things, and some people like to speak with precision.

      • whosdadog@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        92·
        11 个月前

        Words apparently don’t mean things anymore, Merriam Webster added a new definition for “literally” this year

        • Pipoca@lemmy.worldEnglish
          13·
          11 个月前

          Merriam Webster is a descriptive dictionary. They don’t tell you how words “should” be used, they say how words are used.

          Using literally as an intensifier goes back literal centuries. The earliest written citation we’ve found of that usage goes back to 1769. It can be found everywhere from Dickens to Brontë.

          It’s also hardly the first word to go on a similar path towards becoming an intensifier. Very originally meant “genuine”, really meant “in fact”, absolutely meant “completely”, etc.

          But who complains about sentences like “I was really bored to death”, or “I was absolutely rooted to the ground”? Does saying “it’s very cold” just mean “it is a genuine fact that it is cold”?

          Literally still means what it means. You can’t use literally to mean “yellow”, for example. People aren’t generally confused when they come across the word.

        • Bgugi@lemmy.worldEnglish
          11·
          11 个月前

          Language is a complex and nuanced subject, but it often helps to remember that “all words are made up.”

          Idioms and hyperbole are both used extensively in language to imbue feeling to statements, most people would roll their eyes at someone who interjects with a “there’s no actual evidence that boredom can be lethal” or a “I highly doubt that vendor would accept human limbs as payment,” but somehow lots of people stan for “literal” snobbery.

          If it makes you feel any better, you can think of it as a homophone from the same root: “in a manner related to literature,” speaking to artistic yet inexact use of words in a sentence.

        • Skipper_the_Eyechild@lemmings.worldEnglish
          1·
          11 个月前

          Also… I’m all for the language evolving and words changing their meaning over time, as they’ve always done, but that one is crazy. Hopefully common use will, in time, fix that and get that new definition changed… but ehh, I don’t hold much hope.

          Bring on the AI overlords? Reading the Polity (Sci Fi) series at the moment, and it really doesn’t seem like a bad option!

        • MrSqueezles@lemm.eeEnglish
          11·
          11 个月前

          They also added a new definition for “very” to mean something other than, “factually”, or, “verifiably”.

      • Skipper_the_Eyechild@lemmings.worldEnglish
        1·
        11 个月前

        The title correcting it to further is what caught my attention, but no, I’m not seeing people taking huge issue with it either.

        And there’s nothing wrong with being correct, I like to be eloquent too.

        I was just saying farther is just as correct as further, and found it interesting is all. They may have been misused a hundred years ago, but not for a long long time, they have identical meanings nowadays!