I just saw some posts from beehaw.org and lemmy.world, looks like we’re back in business!

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    Indeed, pretty cool!

    First thing I noticed though is that I’d really like to know which instance a thread is actually on.

    For example, this post:

    Going back to Reddit feels bad (kbin.social)
    polygon, 2 hours ago to chat

    … is actually on chat@beehaw.org, even though it says “kbin.social” and just “chat” below. Pretty confusing.

    EDIT:
    There’s at least one fix for this in the meantime – get this userscript:
    https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/468612-kbin-enhancement-script

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      I get what you’re saying – that the link source indicator should point to the instance that hosts the group – but it’s a quirk of how federation works that the thread is actually on kbin.social. And, well, any other site that’s following the thread.

      Everything is actually local on the fediverse. It’s just that not everything has to originate from the local website. Federation works via content mirroring, which is why the URL for any given Magazine you’re viewing still starts with kbin.social. You’re not viewing remote content, you’re viewing local content that was imported from a remote source. And the link indicator is telling you where kbin has been told the content resides.

      And that’s on kbin.social.

      I think maybe the link source indicator just shouldn’t render if the thread doesn’t have a link purposefully attached to it, and the Magazine name should show the full name@host indicator.

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        Cannot tell you how much I appreciate things like this and how long it’s going to take me to get used to the idea of not being on a closed platform. It makes perfect sense, but it would seem to defeat the purpose of having the source there at all, like you’ve suggested. We know it’s on kbin, that’s where we are.

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      Also: I think usernames from other instances should show which instance they’re from.

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        you can see this if you hover over their name. but it’s not displayed by default. It’d be nice to have an option to have it written out rather than hidden.

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        I think it’d make the comments a little cluttered looking. It doesn’t really matter what instance someone is from for regular conversation and if someone’s curious the can click through to the persons profile

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          It should be an option. Some people prefer the “clean” version of just showing username, with needing action to see url. while others prefer seeing the entire username+url even if it’s “messy”. I’d prefer the latter, while others might prefer the former. It should be a toggleable option.

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            I think appending it to the username would be slightly messier for me, but for unexplainable brain reasons I seem to want to have this feature as well. Maybe if we stuck the instance below their avatar instead?? In any case, it would still be appreciated on articles

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              Yeah, whatever ui to show it i’m fine with as long as i don’t need to hover over every name to see it lol. whether it’s just added to the end like how tagging works, or if it’s shown underneath or something is fine too.

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          I was thinking it should be included to avoid casual impersonation. I agree it would be a lop more cluttered though; maybe there’s another way.

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            I mean - on the desktop site at least, I can just hover over someone’s name and see what instance they are on.

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      Threads are hosted on the instance that the magazine is on. I think instances viewing it also just make a copy?

      You can check the @ to see the url for both users and magazines. I’m not fond of the fact that kbin often hides the @url for things. I’d much prefer to see it since it makes things feel bigger to me. @.chat@beehaw.org just ends up being shortened to @.chat lol. see? @chat @chat they are identical lmao. it’s annoying.

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      I mean seriously? This dude’s project has had hardly any downtime (like 100% inaccessible downtime) in the last few days during a massive migration. How impressive is that? He was able to find a solution with cloudflare where, sure things were a little slow to load and didn’t federate, but I never found myself unable to access kbin. On top of that, he’s communicating clearly and often. I hope this succeeds. @ernest has absolutely earned it.

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        There have been a few times I’ve been unable to log in, unresponsive pages etc., but considering how recently kbin.social was created, the massive influx of users and the fact that @ernest is managing all this himself - absolutely phenomenal job.

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          I haven’t looked into just what the backend architecture is like, but I’ve seen comments that suggested it may be a single physical server? If so, some short periods of downtime are unavoidable. I do high availability backend dev and it’s no easy task to have near perfect uptime. Having distributed servers across multiple locations is essential for that, but generally requires careful design. Databases also get more complicated when using distributed databases (but I swear by them).

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    Is slowly coming back, ernest is testing the waters, he said recently that he was working on upgrading the server and that federation will slowly come back.

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    yesss, the only thing i’m really hoping for is all my subscriptions from multiple fediverse platforms show up under one page.

  • Otome-chan@kbin.social
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    yes I’ve been seeing much more activity at least from lemmy world and beehaw. moreso than these past few days. I’ve actually had a “live” chat with some of them!

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    It seems to be slowly rolling back in. I still can’t find my kbin account from my Mastodon account, but I can find my Mastodon account from my kbin account, for example. I also left a comment on a thread from lemmyworld@lemmy.world from kbin.social, but when I go to the actual Lemmy instance, I do not see my comment.

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    I’m still not able to subscribe to magazines on here from Lemmy, which is interesting. Maybe federation needs some time to catch up.

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      Same. I’ve tried searching for kbin from lemmy, but nothing ever pops up. Not sure if I’m doing something wrong or it just isn’t fully working yet.

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              This would insinuate kbin is the only one requiring the whole URL, and it seems like that would severely hamper the discovery of only kbin magazines from non-kbin instances. Which is like. Most instances in existence. :/

              Unless you mean the discovery is fine and it’s only how you have to subscribe to them, which I can’t check because I have no interest in setting up other accounts atm

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                IMO, Lemmy is the one that’s incorrect by requiring the URL. Kbin does the same thing Mastodon does by having it use the @ instead.

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    Just curious, are you guys exclusively using phone or computer, mix?

    I’ve only used my phone so far out of habit and it’s definitely kept me more limited in exploring

  • TheYang@kbin.social
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    not really, while apparently there is read access for other instances, I couldn’t get a post to this thread from lemmy