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Sounds silly of course, and it is silly. But I thought it would be interesting to think it through. And with multiple minds.
How do you go about “turning off the internet” for a particular country? Because this is being attributed to Trump, I’m presuming that “turn off the internet” could mean a number of things.
Mess with DNS? Disable infrastructure? Buy out telecom?
Let’s say we’re committed to this task, how do we go about it? Let’s hear the crazy ideas
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He’d have his man-servant turn off the wifi on his phone. As long as the little symbol is gone, that means the internet no longer exists. Object Permanence isn’t his strong suit.
Hahahaha pretty reasonable
From a technical POV you can’t. The US is too well connected with many subsea cables to Europe, South America, and Asia.
https://www.submarinecablemap.com/
In addition because the providers and cables are owned and operated by private companies the government would have a very hard time convincing telcos to do that.
Hell even internally you can’t with every major city having 2 or 3 places where providers can connect with Google, Amazon, Facebook, Cloudflare, Akamai. Not to mention all the private peering locations.
From a political POV, make legislation that says registered telcos must turn off telecommunications equipment connected to non US locations or black hole non us traffic when entering the country when requested by a government.
It would also completely fuck our critical infrastructure. There’s enough that needs connectivity for it to cascade to much more.
Their agenda is to roll back the clock and I don’t mean metaphorically.
Probably fucking with BGP somehow but I don’t really know beyond that
For many countries, it’d be as easy as cutting a few undersea cables. Two to three cut cables in 2008 brought down most of the Arab peninsula.
https://www.wired.com/2008/12/mediterranean-c/
As for the US and Europe, things are too interconnected for that to work. That said, the Internet as a whole is more centralized than you might expect from its history as a network that was supposed to be nuclear war proof.
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Man I’m not pushing any political agenda or party. I don’t now what propaganda you’re talking about. I read an article, and posted it here for context behind the purpose of the post.
Just thought it was a fun train of thought to chase down. I try not to take myself too seriously
I remember Mubarak managing to do so while he was in the process of being overthrown.
Egypts internet infrastructure of 2011 does not equal US internet infrastructure of 2025. The US is too well connected to feasibly turn off the internet. With egypt in 2011 they only had to shut down five ISPs and that shut off the internet in their country.
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Wouldn’t that obliterate a ton of other infrastructure and do much more turn turn off the internet…basically turn any electronic device into a brick?
Oh, you wanted to turn it back on? That’s extra.
Man, Trump is living rent free in people’s heads.
The “Internet” isn’t actually a thing. You can disrupt large portions of computer interconnectivity by targeting popular service providers and the larger traffic hubs. Because there is no central junction or single vendor or provider it isn’t really something that can be completely shut off in one brush stroke. Note that television and voice calls and all money uses the same infrastructure. Selectively shutting off somethings and not others would be even harder.
Devil in the details, as with all things he says…
If we redefined what “turn off” means, and make it more like “no access to internet” the end result of turning off the internet is achieved.
So far, forcing telcos into action might be the most applicable? They can pick and choose services to disable I assume
