• MotoAsh@lemmy.world
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    I don’t know if you’ve noticed, but some people don’t understand the difference between being nice and acting nice.

    Hell some political leanings make it a goal to harm their opponents… y’know, their fellow citizens. Some people are truly fucked up and truly do not deserve freedom. It’s often not the drug dealers and miscreants, but the ones who literally do not care about others.

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      Everyone, and I mean everyone, deserves freedom, spare serving reasonable time for a crime. A certain part of the political spectrum feels that a number of people don’t deserve freedom because they are not like them. This kind of thinking is a dangerous, slippery slope that leads to authoritarianism and dictatorships.

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        The paradox of intolerance.

        Tolerance is a condition of this social contract we call society. If you can’t abide by the contract, you don’t get the benefits.

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          I’ll agree to that, but it also leads to the catch-22 that’s the basic foundation of the paradox. The problem inhabeneith it is that this is purely subjective. We can all agree that we know which segment of society is intolerant, but in the reality they live in, they view us as intolerant of their way of life (as vice versa). While we know we are right, they believe (know) they are right. And then it boils into a feud where each particular group elects or appoints a given leader/government to enforce their worldview, including consequences for digression, and it all devolves into tribalistic battles and war.

          Most people on either side of the political aisle are typically not as incidiary as their more vocal minorities, they’d just assume go.about their lives. As a society, we must encourage the broader population to not give in to this petty bickering and inflammatory conduct, and advocate for live and let live, as well as deal with situations of intolerance on an individual basis as opposed to large groups or segments of the population. Comments stating that groups don’t deserve freedom do nothing but fan the flames, and remember that those morons get off on that kind of crap, and they will be the first to scream oppression and retaliate.

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        No, you are just being stupid. That is an utterly ignorant position. There ARE terrible people in the world who literally cannot feel empathy and DO enjoy harming others. There ARE people who undeniably, do not deserve freedom.

        The only time it becomes a problem is when freedom is removed for no good reason. Only one political party enjoys taking choice away. Do not fail to understand The Paradox of Tolerance. The intollerant CANNOT be tolerated for long.

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          Spoken like a child. So what you’re advocating is to basically lock up anyone that shows a hint of intolerance? The problem here is that it’s entirely subjective, and that is the same rhetoric that conservatives use to justify their “own the libs” bullshit. It goes both ways. The only way to rectify this without oppression and suppression is a societal pressure to render those opinions and actions undesirable. To try and force or legislate that change is going to end badly.

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            No, that is exactly NOT what I’m advocating for. Stop failing to understand the most basic principles of tolerance. I did not give you a list of things I would arrest people for, so do not be such a pathetically unimaginative moron and assume I would lock up anyone I disagree with.

            Don’t infantalize others. I’m giving you the respect of assuming you have an adult brain. Start acting like you have one.

            Everyone deserves freedom … until they don’t. Your freedom stops where mine begins. Freedom DOES have a stopping point. Stop pretending otherwise, like a child does.

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              You would do well to stop being a condescending prick. Just because someone sees things differently from you doesn’t give you the right to hurl insults to make your point, in fact it completely detracts from your argument and makes you look like a petulant child. You’ve got some growing up to do, good luck.

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                You would do well to learn reading comprehension and nuance.

                Just because your feelings are hurt doesn’t make you correct. Cordiality does not excuse your pathetic assumptions and ignorance towards the world. Fuck off and grow up and realize the world is not kind and there ARE people that absolutely, completely deserve zero freedom.

                If you think I am an asshole, then know that I am an infinitely better person than anyone who has committed violent crime or serious crime. You look at the world with rose-colored glasses, and that’s bad. It makes you pathetically easy to manipulate by truly evil people who will be nice to your face as long as you’ll give them your money.

                Be glad I am not one of those liars and am willing to be honest with you.

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                    Your projection does not help you. Pathetic inability to make a point. Thanks for proving me correct: You have too small of a mind to see the world for what it is. Sad. Truly.