That’s the republicans plan.
Putin’s plan, the Republicans are just following orders.
Nah, the republicans have just as much agency as Putin. These fuckers are fascists and fascists love to give aid to other fascists ever since Hitler helped Franco win Spain.
Nah, Putin has a bunch of dirt on them. The DNC isn’t the only one who had their emails hacked.
You said the quiet part out loud.
The EU should never let this happen. Europeans love to shit on the US on how much we spend on the military and simultaneously form a queue to get on knees for sucking uncle sam dry when they need defences. Help your neighbors you leeches or fuck off. Dont put this on the US.
The European spendings and commitments for Ukraine are higher than US. As it should be.
Here is the tracker: https://www.ifw-kiel.de/topics/war-against-ukraine/ukraine-support-tracker/
Good thing this post is how the war can be lost if the US delays funds and not EU.
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Ukraine just needs to let them come.
I think they’re not stopping volunteers. Integrating them into the military is a challenge of its own though, they’re not just Civilization army units that you can move around and they’ll behave like any other units.
For years the consensus was that the Europeans would accept US hegemony in exchange for protection. But that’s no longer the case. But tell me, what exactly will the US gain from having a more assertive and militarised Europe?
It makes SO MUCH sense for the US to spend money here. We spent 5% of our military budget for Ukraine to take out around half of Russia’s army. So 5% to kneecap our biggest adversary is too expensive for the Republicans? Conservatives are a fucking cancer.
The Russians aren’t an adversary of the Republicans. They’re their sponsors.
Room to cut military spending on providing Europe’s military defense for it?
consensus was that EU would accept US hegemony in exchange for protection
Yeah i dont think this was ever true. Even if it was true, why shit on your protection and crying when you need it? The US would gain not having to spend so much on military outposts in the EU/NATO if you guys stopped relying on the US for protection. Increase the taxes on your citizens a bit more to get the military spending you need. This way, the US can finally get some proper healthcare. Everyone wins, right?
Ha ha, you’re a funny one. Do you really believe for one second, that any money saved on the military would actually benefit regular people? The US already spend more per head on healthcare than any other country and yet outcomes for normal people are atrocious. Who do you think pockets all that money?
It’s not military spending in the way of proper healthcare in the US. The current system makes a lot of money for a bunch of people directly and others indirectly and fixing the system would cut off that profit so they are willing to use their wealth to ensure that wealth keeps getting topped up.
Be me, Putin
Man, Fuck NATO, I want a buffer zone between us and them
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I’ll just annex some territory and make it a buffer state.
Oh shit, now NATO is closer than ever!
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What to do?
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I’ll just annex some territory and make it a buffer state
Nah, just buy some politicians of your biggest adversary and you’re golden. They’re cheap. Really cheap.
Tfw some dickhead politician gets outed for corruption and they say they’ll fight the charges and they took like, $200k. Like damn man, why are you so fucking cheap? I thought corruption would only start around the multimillion dollar mark.
If you are gonna be a criminal, at least have some standards.
Do you know how apathetic I feel when my country gives hundreds of billions to fight this war and most of the people I know can’t afford to live? We work harder than ever, are as productive as ever, get so few days off, only to pay for bombs landing in countries we can’t even pick out on a map.
I want Ukraine to win. I want it badly. Ukraine will ask for more and more money so long as there is war. They will get it. Please don’t delay. So will genocidal Israel. And I will be living with my parents until I’m 30. Uncertain if I can afford healthcare.
I know who to be mad at and I want to feel good supporting just wars. But I go to pay my bills, I stand in line at the grocery store, I turn the heat off in my house, and all I hear are the bombs.
The same people who are making your life miserable also support the guys who start those wars.
Look I’m all for being in this to win it. But we can’t be the only ones helping.
you’re not
Edit: Norway has given 1.6% of gheir GDP in aid, US, 0.3%. So, Norway has given 6-7 times more per capita (as they have a larger gdp per capita). The US is actually way down the list in aid per capita.
Nice, then they shouldn’t automatically lose if the US can’t get its shit together.
Depends what happens to european aid… and even though the EU, together, has given more than the US, that doesn’t mean the US is not a significant contributor. I really hope they get their shit together because Ukraine needs all the help they can get.
And the US will lose its allies in the EU for now and into the future.
Really I wouldn’t say so. We are literally packed with US military bases all around Europe “just in case”.
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Was the American revolution any less America’s fight just because the French were paying for it?
Brother, I’m down for funding the Ukranian fight 100%. Fuck Putin, Fuck Russia
*The United States
Ukrainecould lose the war if the U.S. delays military aid, top Ukrainian official saysTIL the United States shares a border with Russia.
I mean almost, but you aren’t exactly going to be invading across there.
Uh, we already did:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Expeditionary_Force,_North_Russia
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Look at a map of countries that are part of NATO in Europe
Russia is not going to stop at Ukraine:
- Next country will be a NATO country.
- When that happens, that country will invoke Article 5
- Next step WW3
Wouldn’t Moldova be a likely next candidate?
Moldova is ready to blow up their own airstrip they are worried it’d be used against them.
I bet they’re very much regretting their own constitution right now. Neutrality is great when you’re surrounded by people who mean you no harm, but when the playground bully is 50 times your size, it’s not going to help much.
Ukraine was always going to lose. A few choice groups have been getting their pockets lined with cash in the mean time.
What does Ukraine “losing” mean to you at this point of the war?
What does Ukraine “winning” mean to you at this point in the war? When you’re targeted by a much larger nation state that has every tactical advantage against you, you’re going to lose.
Look at every nation the United States has invaded over the last 60 years. Would you say any of them won? When hundreds of thousands of your people die violent deaths, it’s hard to declare victory. Even if you remain independent, you lose.
I would say that the US didn’t win in Vietnam, Iraq, or Afghanistan. Everyone loses in all these cases except the nations on the sidelines.
So you would say the USSR won in Afghanistan?
Holy shit are you ignorant of history.
