Like most other people here, I originally came here from reddit. Ive been having a blast so far, and I much prefer the forum-style of this. After about a week of using Lemmy I realized there was something intrinsic to reddit that Lemmy doesnt have. And I wont miss it. Too many people on reddit were way too horny. I was really annoying, but Lemmy seems way more chill. Plus its refreshing knowing that the people on here arent all bots.
The horny people are gonna come here, just watch and see 😉.
im putting my dingus in your microwave
That’s exactly what I’m talking about 😂.
Hey Randy!
It’s basically asking for it.
Don’t forget those horny bots. Beep boop bop
What would be nice is a good way to separate the nsfw instances from the others. Then have one account for those and one for normal posting.
Well, I do have a few accounts on Lemmy, lol 😂. Multiple personalities, at one point, I had 5 accounts on reddit 😂.
Can confirm, been here a couple days, did a “Well lemme check just in case” search for jubblies earlier 😂
Already here. ;)
There goes the neighbourhood 😂.
Ads and the entire ad-driven culture.
Agreed. To help prevent this we should all send at least a few bucks a month to keep this project running.
Especially as a gay guy, seeing massively upvoted posts of a woman holding basically anything (but she’s wearing a low-cut top!!!) got pretty exhausting.
I mean, I’m a straight man and I would also find that annoying!
Yeah, it started to spill over so subs like r/classiccars and r/dogpictures.
From the outside looking in car culture seems pretty full of that kind of thing anyway.
Not so much the classic car sub, that was mostly folks arguing about what defines a classic car, or folks reminiscing about thier first cars.
Trust me, as a hetero woman, I got so exhausted too. Reddit got so eye-roll-y within…less than 5 minutes sometimes that it made me just leave and go do something productive.
The Internet, sadly, has always been an awful place for women and minorities. I hope we can build a culture here where that kind of shit isn’t tolerated, and all (sans trolls, bigots, racists, and Nazis) are made to feel welcome and respected.
Except the Dutch. Fuck those guys.
What the fuck have we dutchies done😂
You burned all our ships that one time!
Austin Powers quote! https://libquotes.com/mike-myers/quote/lbb8l7s
What did I do to you?
Is that a Better Off Ted reference? 😂
Lol Austin Powers: https://libquotes.com/mike-myers/quote/lbb8l7s
Oh right of course. BOT quotes Austin Powers, lol. Thanks :)
Same here. I put a lot of effort into carefully curating my subscribed list on Apollo - it definitely made the experience much more enjoyable.
I’ll never forgot how absolutely bonkers r/CablePorn went over this. Top posts all-time were of some truly gorgeous masterful cable-work in server rooms, colorful coordination, gore-to-porn jobs of jumbled mess to near works-of-art. Then some mildly attractive girl posts herself pointing to a comparatively meh small cabling setup it went into meltdown while also becoming one of the top posts at the time.
I’m gay too. I don’t really understand what this post is about. Your complaint is seeing someone you’re not attracted to? That can’t be right. There has to be something I’m missing.
At least for me, I feel the same way (despite liking women) because I disliked seeing something that was relatively low quality get upvoted purely because of sex appeal. Hell, there’s even a whole sub dedicated to the idea that people just paid attention to the sex appeal, only to be surprised that the content itself was really cool
https://www.reddit.com/r/UNBGBBIIVCHIDCTIICBG/ Upvoted Not Because Girl, But Because It Is Very Cool; However, I Do Concede That I Initially Clicked Because Girl.
I don’t mind the initial posts but when the comments are all “nipples” or something it reinforces what I’ve told my partner: I hate going out in public knowing anyone could take a picture of me and find any reason to sexualize or harass me, just for existing:/
Or r/art just being naked women
As an asexual, that always was a bit uncomfortable. And don’t even get me started on the bots always sending dms. Damn things never stopped. xD
I remember finding a great subreddit called r/CharacterArt (or something like that). You could post character art mainly focused on dnd and other ttrpgs. I thought that was a great idea, and checked it out to find some cool art for my own Pathfinder game.
90% of the top post were women in revealing clothing.
Trust me; they’re coming. As a borderline asexual person I’d want nothing more than a non horny refuge, but that will never exist. Humans are far far too horned up to allow for that.
Why not just make or join an ACE community? I don’t have any links handy, but I know I saw at least one searching through places to subscribe to.
That’s a fair question, but more importantly what accent do you fart with? Or is a different one each time?
Great question: It varies depending on what I eat.
I’m bisexual myself but I hope they can at least not let things turn into what askreddit turned into with the near constant sexual questions.
i think we are a lot safer, with instances that completely block nsfw, they gonna gather in the more open instances
Some of the subreddits could be great, but some could also be really mean and unwelcoming. So far it seems much more friendly here, and I hope that’s not just the honeymoon period.
It is. The bad comes with the good. If we want more user migration then it’s only about time.
Part of that came from the same 3 questions being asked every 5 hours from new people. I’m not necessarily condoning or justifying it, but it did get rather annoying in r/Deadpool when every day there were 4 new posts saying “Hey, I’m new to Deadpool, what’s a good place to start reading/catching up?” despite the first item on the sidebar and FAQ was where to start and the big bold letters on a new post screen was “READ THE FAQ”.
Alternatively, I stayed away from other subs like 1911 because if it wasn’t a Springfield, Colt, or $1400 custom job you got berated and told to “save more money”
The thing I like the most is that I don’t have to scroll through lines of people making jokes to get to the actual discussion or insightful commentary on the topic. Even though there is less happening here, it is definitely more. I honestly can’t see going back to reddit.
I don’t mind good jokes, but Reddit has standard “inside jokes” that are posted to almost every thread. That and the endless quotes from television shows. I like Arrested Development too, but god damn can we just have a conversation without asking how much one banana costs?
Very much this. There is the same jokes that pop up over and over and over again. It gets repetitive.
I got so tired of American cultural references that I couldn’t get
I ended up sticking to UK versions of the big subreddits towards the end partially for this reason and partially because I only really follow American politics beyond the surface level when it’s geopolitically relevant to the UK so I wouldn’t have a clue what was going on in some threads. Nothing against American pop culture or anything (I’d be massive hypocrite, I’m a deadhead and that’s got to be one of the most quintessentially American bands) but it gets a bit too much when it’s 24/7 and most of the comments sometimes.
I like to think the Fediverse ought to naturally be more internationalist since it’s not fundamentally an organ of the American ad industry but I guess we’ll see in the years to come. Either way I much prefer the vibe here in general, it’s way more chill and not an angry place like Reddit has become.
I think it’s just the nature of the Internet being predominantly English speaking, b3ta.com went the same way quite quickly
Is that even avoidable? It’s the low effort type of joke that will get you upvotes every time, and because of that, people will always reuse them.
“Karma” and the gamification of it make it worthwhile to do whatever gets you those upvotes. I like that Lemmy votes stay attached to the specific post or comment without it giving an overall score for the user. I also really like that the scores can be hidden by the user entirely.
Is “karma” system completely bad? If someone has bad reputation (based on karma) it can be used to quickly figure out if they are troll account for example.
Potentially. It also might just mean they post, or posted one time, things that go against the commonly held groupthink.
I don’t think a reputation system is bad necessarily, however I think Reddit is well aware that the one they created results in many users chasing that carrot, and people take the scores very seriously. You see evidence all the time with “downvotes, really?” or “of course my most upvoted comment is”. The dopamine hit and avoidance of downvotes (or ability to punish wrong-thinkers with them) help create some of the echo chamber.
A reputation system could easily be based on a global ratio and labels for example, but it would be less addictive. I am on an instance that doesn’t even have downvotes, and I like that, and I still hide scores, so my concern for identifying trolls through a points system versus the things they say isn’t all that high.
That’s a good point, it is a flawed system in that sense, but it definitely incentivizes people to interact and post more, which is in turn a good for the platform getting more content, I guess.
I’m excited to see how Lemmy’s system is going to work out, and/or if it evolves, and what kind of community will it end up “creating”.
Oh god I got so tired of the jokes. In the beginning I liked to see them peppered in here and there, and I love a good pun, but it just became so overdone and forced. Every thread was just lines and lines and lines of jokes (many of them weren’t even good) with no actual conversation. It got boring.
AnarchyChess somehow seemingly flooding the site in the last week or two, good lord. Every single time, “holy hell” etc. So old, so quickly.
I miss the jokes
we all need a few jokes here and there
I am waiting for some NSFW communities/instances to be created. It has the addition of attracting new users as well.
Hoping they don’t come with a deluge of OnlyFans spam. Reddit had some good niche NSFW subs, but they got watered down with generic content. The same stuff gets posted to every sub, with a mad libbed title to fit the kink. Their profiles are just a hundred of the same picture, titled Would you _____ a ______ or Am I too ____ for ____?
I think the worst offender was a ginger who made it to the top of HotArabGirls or something.
Yes! Those titles were so annoying.
Same, I feel like there isn’t any niche content here yet, but I’m less than an hour in so I’m still kinda looking for the light switch
You can always make a community for the niche content you want.
Sorting by all/hot, you can come across some nsfw communities, although some of them seem really shady.
*yet.
The pessimistic Internet user in me knows we are in the honeymoon stage of a wonderful user base.
Yeah, I just encountered my first “average redditor” on here, but it was just one account among many great ones, so it’s still good for now, but the trolls will come.
A/S/L?
14/F/Cali
I haven’t thought of that meme in a long time.
Is TIHI federated yet cause this meme needs to go there my eyes are bleeding
Be the change you want to see in the world.
Another thing I appreciate here is the lack of ragebait. It’s more common in video sharing platforms (which Reddit keeps stumbling over itself trying to become) where you have people deliberately making awful food recipes or doing something completely nonsensical for the sole purpose of clicks and engagement.
Social media in its current state is focused on pissing people off. Twitter and Reddit making decisions to kneecap themselves for the sake of lofty ideals is the best thing that’s happened to the Internet in recent memory.
This is particularly why I don’t participate in any social media aside from (what used to be reddit but now) lemmy. It got to the point where I wasn’t even enjoying reddit, I just clicked it out of habit. And did I actually retain anything useful from that website? Lol no. It was all just timewasting bullshit that put you in a pissy mood.
It’s nice to actually hold a fucking conversation for once. I think a lot of us came here for the same reason; missing the community of that old school forum feel.
Yeah, after years of being in that swirling bowl of timewasting, contrarian opinionating, and all that bad faith nonsense, I agree. I actually agree. Man, this is like the Digimon fan forums back in the ProBoards days, haha!
YES this so so much. reddit tends to be way too full of ragebait, horny comments, and extremist echo chambers. i’ve had enough with it all!
100% this. My mood levels have been way more stable since I deleted Reddit. I think the forum based media here also only attracts people willing to contribute more than just a sensational picture or video.
Tbf I enjoyed r/shittyfoodporn…
Saaame. But I like it when it’s genuinely bad. Not just some tiktok of some content farm adding cheese to cheese to cheese.
I’ve really enjoyed how much discussion is going on here! It seems like everyone is excited and happy to be here. Friendly conversations is something I missed on Reddit and I’m happy to have that here.
Something similar drove me off 4chan’d /b/ back in the day. At some point, it became absolutely not random, but simply dedicated to various porn - porn that surely had their own board, which made me even more confused as to why post it in a place that is specifically made for basically uncategorised content that shouldn’t fit anywhere else.
Part of that for me was when /b/ because flooded with social-threads to the point they had to make /soc/ just to get them out
Oh, there’s still plenty of time for that. I’ve already seen a couple of NSFW Lemmy instances,
That’s disgusting! Tell me exactly where so I know where to avoid! Exactly.
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Annnnnd just like that, I learned that tentacle porn is a thing. Why did I click haha
Call of the void?
It’s been a thing literally for centuries, you’re late :P
I’m hoping it won’t happen here but the endless shoehorning about how every single little problem anyone under the age of 40 encounters is because of fUcKiNg BoOmErS, and how anyone under the age of 40 is the most oppressed group of people in the history of time.
Ok boomer 👌😎🔥🌿💨
You’re not wrong; I’ve noticed the same. Less ‘horny’ specifically, and more… reasonable and engaged; vs impulsive and reactive.
I think the accessibility of reddit vs Lemmy plays a feature there. Lemmy requires at least some level of tech literacy to understand well enough to use, and it also isn’t where most of the people are. So the people choosing to use Lemmy fully intend to use it; we’re not casual users.
Because it’s so easy to use, I think Reddit has a lot of young and/or immature people (demographics that overlap, but aren’t the same). So it’s full of impulsive, heavily-opinionated, casual users who aren’t really invested in their communities, that can easily make a new account on a whim, and that create echo chambers with their votes.
It’s not really Reddit’s fault, tbh. It’s an issue of user population, especially when 90% of the users do nothing more than upvote (so generically agreeable things rise) or downvote (anything that challenges them falls). The bigger a user platform gets, the more it homogenises.
Reddit was only unusual in that subreddits let it homogenise on a sub-by-sub basis and create echo chambers; a savvy redditor could still find smaller subs with better discussion (r/patientgamers rather than r/gaming for example). Or subs would get bigger and start becoming hostile or tribal, losing their original mission - and somebody from the old days would make a ‘true’ version (r/childfree vs r/truechildfree).
Lemmy is too small for groupthink to homogenise it (yet?). But particularly large instances could potentially go the same way given enough years. It’s just that Lemmy being federated means that we can make new instances, and defederate from any that we may find unpleasant. I’ve already learned of one portal that isn’t federated to my chosen one.
To add onto your point. One thing that we’ll have to watch out for is that toxic clout culture built up on other websites coming here.
It’s been something I’ve been thinking about in the context of all this. People aren’t coming from the void. They’ll have their own internet lingo and culture that they’ll bring with them to any site they go to. And while the design of a website can mitigate some of the worst parts of a culture, it can’t outright remove it.
Without near constant vigilance (like the ask a historian subreddit) most communities will end up dying off. And even then you’re at the whims of the platform.
I realise my point now is hardly even connected to yours, haha. Apologies.
That’s a great point, too.
I chose beehaw has my home instance because it’s community-focused, has an application process, and the communities are premade umbrellas (so people don’t fragment into echo chambers).
But lemmy.ml is already visibly showing the signs of Reddit migration. I think the users that are migrating are still the ‘better’ of Reddit (intend to contribute, care enough to go through the process of learning Lemmy). But lemmy.ml is rapidly filling up with the same fragmented, specialised echo chambers that Reddit’s culture developed, as they prepare to evacuate as many users from Reddit as possible - regardless of whether those users intend to contribute meaningfully to Lemmy.
That’s not automatically bad - a person who only plays older games values a space that isn’t dominated by news of recent releases, and a person that’s child-free will struggle to find recommended doctors for sterilisation in a ‘Family’ or ‘Parenting’ umbrella sub. And I came here from Reddit, too.
But it seems that people are coming to Lemmy with the expectation that they can turn it into Reddit, complete with the isolated communities/subreddits they’re used to. If not enough of them adapt to what makes Lemmy’s mixed-spaces different, users could play their own role in Lemmy’s ‘enshittification’ for older users, who lose the shared respectful discussion in favour of hundreds of echo chambers.
I absolutely agree on your point about people wanting to turn lemmy into Reddit. Everyone has some very clear problems with Reddit, so why do we just want to create it again??
And again, some communities are going to have to migrate. And they’ll likely hold the same culture they did on Reddit, and just… Writing this, I realise that I sound like an old man who hates people. But I just find huge forums or social media groups with thousands upon thousands of people to be EXHAUSTING. The culture, the social dance of it all.
And I want to escape that from Reddit. The main stream of Reddit felt like a secondary rat race to my actual life. No substance, just astroturfing and attention traps. I don’t want another Reddit, I don’t want another time sink for the toilet. I want genuine discussions and the good hearted fun of old forums…
Haha, sorry, going to continue to yap off until my jaw simply falls off my face.
Honestly, I think this is the point where we have to do our best in making a good community. The application process for beehaw is fantastic. And maybe I’m just mean but I hope to see many more application based communities. Say what you will about gatekeeping. But sometimes asking people to do more than the bare minimum is necessary to making a good community. And sometimes a good community doesn’t have to involve everyone that so much as glanced over.
I don’t want another Reddit, I don’t want another time sink for the toilet. I want genuine discussions and the good hearted fun of old forums…
I think that gave me an epiphany that hadn’t occurred to me earlier somehow: I don’t think I ever really got to experience Old Forum culture? And I kinda feel like I missed the boat?
Reddit was probably the closest I got to experiencing that kind of place. I think I knew of a couple established forums related to my interests growing up, but I learned pretty early on that I wasn’t quite ready to be in that kind of place yet. Bless my heart, I found myself being annoying in all the wrong ways 🥴. I found Reddit right around the time I started to straighten that out. I think that was around a year or a few before the Ellen Pao round of intrigue? I suppose I just never found enough of an incentive to branch out from there.
I always found myself at least intrigued by the likes of Tumblr, Hacker News, or just general blogs and that kind of thing. I think the uniting thread behind them that interested me is an experience that has the potential to be a bit more longform compared to Twitter or Facebook. I’m used to people around me seeing Reddit as old school, different, and Off compared to whatever else, so I figured I was still getting a pretty respectable analog to the forum vibe I had a loose understanding of earlier.
But was I really? I recall sensing changes in the vibe pretty early on, and I wouldn’t even say I was an early entry on Reddit. Things typically felt too fast for me to get my word in, and the hivemind attitude toward opinion and form was a real turnoff (not that I care to throw them around like confetti, but I’d be psyched to leave behind the rampant emoji hatred 🗿.) That’s not to say I imagine forums as invulnerable to similar kinds of pitfalls, but I suspect Reddit was in a special position to make those kinds of issues more visible.
I think either way I end up with the Reddit migration, it’s going to be at a slower pace and a different form than Reddit was, at least for a while. That worried me at first, but the more I think about it, maybe that’s for the better. I’m starting to think I was missing out on something I didn’t know I’d prefer. Maybe if I grew up just a few years earlier I would’ve found myself more among a smattering of forums than I ended up.
I was only on forums as a little kid myself. Trust me, I’m Very Young, I was just good with computers young. But the notifications, small scale, it gave me a little tickle that I hadn’t felt since those silly days of logging onto Pokemon forums as a kid.
I’ve never been super active on Reddit myself. Hell, I’ve probably written more comments on here in the past day or two than I did over a few years on Reddit. So I can’t accurately describe the culture change to you. I’m sure there’s plenty of older folk who would be able to tell you though.
But it’s something I haven’t felt for a while, and something I had forgotten myself. Where social media is… An active choice? On Reddit, it was easy to be entirely passive. Just scroll and scroll. And really, it wasn’t even making me happy. It was just engagement for the sake of being engaged. But if I’m on a smaller forum I love talking with people! Sharing these experiences. Also, yay for having forum tools again!! I missed being able to post pictures in comments.
I kinda wish I joined beehaw for this exact reason. I signed up a little before the overload and I think there was a couple hundred members at most but now I’m seeing some of the old reddit mindset trickle in and… ugh.
Maybe I just don’t like redditors? Talk about irony. Lol
I hope there ends up being a migration feature introduced sometime.
You could always just go to beehaw.org or lemmy.world directly and register a new acc there, and still subscribe to all the same communities. You don’t actually lose anything that matters by signing up elsewhere. Even your own post history on your lemmy.ml account can be viewed by just going to lemmy.ml to log in again, if it matters to you.
In fact, signing up to a moderately-sized instance like lemmy.world may also be good for your usage; lemmy.ml is being slammed by incoming users, so anybody using it (even if they’re viewing other instances’ communities) feel the chug. If it goes down, all of Lemmy is inaccessible to you.
But if you’re on a different, smaller instance, then you can continue ticking over while the behemoths are struggling by staying in shallow waters until they recover from the server load. A moderately-sized instance is more likely to get ongoing support than a small, newer one is; and less likely to time out or be hugged to death than a larger one is.
I think the accessibility of reddit vs Lemmy plays a feature there. Lemmy requires at least some level of tech literacy to understand well enough to use
This is a big plus for Lemmy right now. IMO the reason Reddit used to be great was its inaccessibility. Old-style Reddit was ugly as hell and difficult to use and that kept away the “impulsive, heavily-opinionated, casual users”.
Old Reddit was certainly plain and stripped-down, but when was it ever hard to use?
Hey man, idk about you but im still impulsive and heavily opiniated lol
