I’m a bit confused as to what platform I should look to for my exodus from Reddit. First we have Lemmy which is a direct Reddit alternative. Then we have kbin which is ALSO is own Reddit alternative AND portal to Lemmy/Mastodon. Finally we have Mastodon which is the well established Twitter alternative that doesn’t really portal to Lemmy or Kbin.
I’m ok with Mastodon being it’s own thing, but what about Lemmy and Kbin? Kbin seems more secure and flexible but Lemmy is longer running with apps available on iOS and Android.
Which do you think you’ll be gravitating towards?
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Lemmy is more of a Reddit alternative, where you have the focus on communities/categories (similar to “subreddits”) to which you can subscribe to, while Mastodon is more a Twitter alternative, focusing on users to follow.
Kbin is actually slightly special.
It is also running on the Fediverse network, but can communicate with multiple other services. Meaning, it can show you content from all Lemmy instances (called Threads) and content from Mastodon (called Microblog). You can see this thread there as well.
By using Kbin, you have access to both worlds, Lemmy and Mastodon. In addition, it supports even more of the so-called “ActivityPub” services, like Pleroma or Peertube.
While I love the implementation of Kbin, it still has small hiccups here and there - it feels less reliable/stable. Some content isn’t fully updated, like this post missing most of the comments at the time I posted this. They even warn you about it: “The magazine from the federated server may be incomplete. Browse more on the original instance.”
I had the best experience so far by using a Lemmy instance for Lemmy and a Mastodon instance for Mastodon. Waiting for Kbin to be more mature.
FYI, Lemmy uses ActivityPub too. It is fully compatible with other fediverse services. Just not executed as cleanly as kbin.
Personally, I’m sticking to Lemmy and Mastodon for now. I like things seperated. Heck, I even have 3 different Mastodon accounts for different purposes.
I wasn’t a fan wel YT and insta started doing short videos alla TikTok. I wasn’t a fan of stories in my chat app. Etc etc.
Now I quit using most conventional SNS ages ago, and never used others. But I still feel the same way. Luckily, the good thing of decentralised stuff is that it uses the same protocol, and I can still interact with people who do want everything in one place and use kbin while I don’t have to.
They all talk to each other.
From my mastodon account i can:
- follow sublemmys
- follow lemmy users
- comment on lemmy posts
- comment on lemmy comments
- share lemmy posts
- share lemmy comments
From my lemmy account i can:
- follow mastodon users
- comment on mastodon users posts
- comment on mastodon users comments
- crosspost mastodon users posts to sublemmys
While i have never used kbin i have no doubt that it can do everything listed above.
Really the fediverse is a “choose your own interface” kinda place. Do you understand reddit UI best? Use lemmy. Does twitter UI make sense to you? Use mastodon. Do you like both? Use both for different reasons. Either way you can interact with anyone, using anything, anywhere that uses activitypub and anyone, from anywhere, using anything supporting activitypub can interact with you. That is the whole point. Get rid of the silo social media so you never have to lose your social graph again because you moved to a new service they are not on
Is there any good documentation about how to go about doing this? What’s the user experience like?
I enjoy setting up accounts on different services and trying them out. I haven’t tried kbin yet. I’m using Lemmy thru the app Jerboa. I’ve liked Reddit’s threading format because it facilitates discussion in an organized way so that shitposters can’t derail an entire thread. I think Lemmy also succeeds with this. Jerboa needs more polish, and searching is not intuitive, but its all on the right track IMO.
I’m also a bit confused. Personally, I’m using Lemmy because it’s been around for longer. Kbin seems really nice in the UI/UX department, but to be honest I’m not a fan of its tech stack.
This is the beauty of the fediverse. With open protocols I believe that there’s going to be interoperability between whichever platform you choose.
I already use mastodon, and built a good follow list with some people and hashtags to follow, and got an app I like with settings the way I want, so I anticipate I’ll move some more of my time to mastodon now that I won’t be spending any time on Reddit. However, as you mentioned mastodon isn’t really a reddit replacement. For that, I’m anticipating Lemmy will fill some of it, and depending on how much it takes off, I’m going to probably get back to using a robust RSS reader as well.
You can follow Lemmy links in mastodon which actually works surprisingly well just not as well as the actual Lemmy app.
same here. what’s even more confusing to me is that, for example, i can look at this from from my lemmy account at https://feddit.de/post/783808 and see a few comments; but if i search this post from kbin and looking at it there https://kbin.social/m/technology@lemmy.ml/t/10402/Overwhelmed-a-bit-with-fediverse-redundancy i only see one other comment, but not the ones i see on here at lemmy.
i like the UI more from kbin, it’s more customizable, but i really don’t know with which platform i should subscribe to communities / magazines / threads / whatever the name is, and which account to use.
Another thing that turns me away from kbin is the “The magazine from the federated server may be incomplete. Browse more on the original instance” message that appears basically in every magazine. Does that mean it stays that way? Is it syncing? I dont understand it
Yea, the kbin thread currently only shows 4 comments. Wonder whether thats just what someone else commented (kbin having hiccups) or if I understood something wrong
I find myself in a similar position. For now, i just stop overthinking the whole thing and just have multiple horses in the race and see how it will turn out in the future. I would love if the account would be connected with every federation, just so the instance itself is just a frontend and is completely interchangeable and if you really created your account on an instance which goes south or even down, it wouldn’t matter.
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- Basically, Mastodon is a microblogging platform which makes it can be alternative to Twitter or Tumblr.
- Lemmy is a social news aggregator which makes it alternative to Reddit or Digg.
- I haven’t used kbin, but it describes itself as both. So if you like to have both the features of microblogging and content aggregators at the same platform, go try it. Kbin can do this because it and the former two uses ActivityPub, aka they are in the Fediverse so you can see and follow content from each other’s platforms, just presented in the format of the platform you’re in (imagine Twitter posts in your Instagram feed).
I started with Mastodon and I’m new here on Lemmy. I think Reddit alternatives are pretty straightforward in the Fediverse. I’m here at Lemmy because it’s the most obvious what I came for with Reddit.
Meanwhile, Twitter alternatives here are a can of worms. There’s Mastodon, Misskey, Pleroma, Gnusocial, etc. and all of their individual forks, competing with how much “micro” or how much “blogging” each have. Luckily, with Activitypub, content are shared with each other.@xx3r @jezebelley pretty sure you can also reply to posts from other platforms. If this works, hi from Hometown/Mastodon!
@talon @xx3r @jezebelley it works!
Yes! Though I learned recently that interactions in, for example, a Misskey post often would not show up if viewed on Mastodon so some accounts would look like lord of the flies but should actually have a lot of comments. Might be different with other platforms but I don’t want to bother migrating
