I am definitely a hard-liner when it comes to meat. I do find it harder to be such a hard-liner with other animal products, even though I’m aware of the conditions in dairy factory farms. I do agree with you, I’m just saying it’s difficult.
Respectfully, I’m new to lemmy so I dont know how strict the mods are here, but I think that you want to continue this discussion. We should move this conversation to direct messaging or to another community of your choice, due to the rules of this sub. Happy to continue talking though
This particular community is a vegan only one, no carnists allowed, but we could definitely have a /c/askavegan community for those interested or ot the fence.
It is difficult, don’t get down on yourself. I think I had the typical vegan journey: carnist > veggie (with mistakes and setbacks) > vegan (with mistakes and setbacks) > vegan
And now I see animal products the same way you see meat: it’s just not food. It can be difficult to get there, but once you do it won’t be “the takeaway doesn’t have vegan options so I’ll have the veggie,” it’ll be “the takeaway doesn’t do any edible food”
I am definitely a hard-liner when it comes to meat. I do find it harder to be such a hard-liner with other animal products, even though I’m aware of the conditions in dairy factory farms. I do agree with you, I’m just saying it’s difficult.
Respectfully, I’m new to lemmy so I dont know how strict the mods are here, but I think that you want to continue this discussion. We should move this conversation to direct messaging or to another community of your choice, due to the rules of this sub. Happy to continue talking though
This particular community is a vegan only one, no carnists allowed, but we could definitely have a /c/askavegan community for those interested or ot the fence.
It is difficult, don’t get down on yourself. I think I had the typical vegan journey: carnist > veggie (with mistakes and setbacks) > vegan (with mistakes and setbacks) > vegan
And now I see animal products the same way you see meat: it’s just not food. It can be difficult to get there, but once you do it won’t be “the takeaway doesn’t have vegan options so I’ll have the veggie,” it’ll be “the takeaway doesn’t do any edible food”