Beehaw - Open Collective
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hey folks, here’s another meta-post. this one isn’t specifically in response to the massive surge of users, but the surge is fortuitously timed because i’ve been intending to give a good idea of what our financial stability is like. as a reminder, we’re 100%-user funded. everything you donate to us specifically goes to the website, or any outside labor we pay to do something for us.

thanks to your generous support, we’re pretty confident we have passed our current break-even point for this month, at which we wouldn’t eventually need to pay out of our own pockets to keep the site running. that point in our estimation is about $26 a month or $312 a year. (please ignore OC’s estimated yearly budget–we don’t determine it lol)

our expenses are currently:

  • $18/mo toward our host, Digital Ocean. (yesterday we upgraded from DO’s $12 tier to its $18 tier to mitigate traffic issues and lag, and it’s really worked out!)
  • $2/mo for weekly backups
  • $4/mo for daily snapshots of the website, which would allow us to restore the website in between the weekly backups if need be.

for a total of at least $26/mo in expenses. this may vary from month to month though, so we’re baking in a bit of uncertainty with our estimation.

we currently have, for the month of June:

  • $70/mo in recurring donations (at least for June)
  • $200 this month in one-time donations

for a total of $270 this month. our total balance now stands at $331.31.

that balance means we now have about a year months of reserves currently, if we received no other donations and have no unexpected expenses.[1] the recurring donations put us well into the green at this point.

this is good! everything past our break-even point each month is, to be clear, money we can save and put toward scaling up our infrastructure. there is no downside to donating after we’ve already met our “goal” of basic financial stability. doing so will have pretty straightforward practical implications for you: fewer 500s, 503s, better image support (this takes a lot of space!), and the website generally being run on more than potato hardware.[2] if you’d like to do so in light of this information, our OpenCollective page is this post’s link. thanks folks!

  1. we will have at least one upcoming expense but its size is TBD, and so is how we’ll pay for it ↩︎

  2. especially during times like now, where we’ve likely been getting thousands or tens of thousands of hits an hour ↩︎

  • Parsnip8904@beehaw.orgEnglish
    5·
    1 year ago

    Using cloudflare as proxy would essentially mean letting them MITM all the traffic though right? All things considered they’re one of the trustworthy companies but is there some other alternative that you can basically self host?

    • TheTrueLinuxDev@beehaw.orgEnglish
      3·
      1 year ago

      Cloudflare can’t be accurately labeled as a Man-in-the-Middle (MitM), given its integral role in the service stack. The same logic would falsely accuse platforms like Linode, AWS, and Azure of the same. Moreover, self-hosting is entirely feasible. The main challenge arises from Internet Service Providers, which often restrict upload speeds unjustifiably. I highlight this to explain why it typically becomes more economical to locate closer to the internet backbone, where the cost and the plan tend to be more reasonable.

      • Parsnip8904@beehaw.orgEnglish
        4·
        1 year ago

        Hey person :) I didn’t accuse anyone of anything. Just pointing out that if you use clouddlare as a proxy specifically, they are technically decrypting your traffic? AWS/Azure/Linode are primarily hosts for webapps and VPSs not proxy providers as far as I’m aware.

        • TheTrueLinuxDev@beehaw.orgEnglish
          2·
          1 year ago

          It’s more apt to say that when you observe what it offers and what it needs, you’re basically coming to a decision that you could choose to forgo some of the security by giving them the TLS cert in exchange for CDN to alleviate server load as well as preventing DDOS attacks. And Linode does allows proxy to be run on their infrastructure when I last contacted them, so they are somewhat a proxy provider although not directly.

          And I didn’t mean to say you’re accusing those providers, but only pointing out that when you voluntarily give the providers your configuration/certificate, there isn’t any malice in this case for it to be attributed to Man in the Middle attack, and there were consent involved.

          • Parsnip8904@beehaw.orgEnglish
            3·
            1 year ago

            I agree that you could host your own proxy on any provider if you wanted to which is nice :)

            My problem with Cloudflare is that they aren’t that transparent about what they’re doing.

            What I’ve usually seen is this: people switch to cloudflare DNS because frankly it’s one of the best services available. They see the little cloud next to their A records which says it uses proxy to make your websites load faster and think this is great. At no point there is a warning saying that by clicking this you’re essentially letting us manage TLS on your website.

            I do use cloudflare proxy because it is pretty neat but definitely not on all content I use.

            I also have to say my concern is not that cloudflare is going to read my passwords or info in my databases but that a) I wouldn’t like to put all eggs in one basket and b) dedicated state actors like NSA might have access into cloudflare.