• Dran@lemmy.world
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    So wait.

    The dispatchers from an English speaking country didn’t speak enough Spanish. And that frustrated people who illegally trespassed into our country and don’t contribute towards funding the service they called.

    …and we’re the bad guy here?

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      They are still human beings. And you cannot determine someone’s citizenship status from the language they speak.

      Yes, leaving someone to die if their language or ethnicity makes you the bad guy.

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        The article suggested they were illegal migrants, I was just accepting their suggestion at face value.

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          And how did a 911 dispatcher know that then?

          You think they start their calls “911, what is your citizenship status?”

          Even then, it shouldn’t matter. Whe shouldn’t deny ANYONE help.

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      The US doesn’t have an official language and it’s completely unreasonable for Pima County, where ~25% of residents speak Spanish as their primary language, to not have Spanish-speaking dispatchers available.

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      an English speaking country

      The United States has no official language. Even in Arizona where English IS the official language, there are written exceptions in the law for law enforcement and emergency services.

      who illegally trespassed

      Why would they do that? They’re surely not stupid, they know how the US feels about them, they know how dangerous it is, and yet they do it anyways. Why? Because despite all of that, the situation they’re trying to leave is even worse, and worth the risk. Why don’t they just immigrate legally? Well, ignoring the fact that the requirements to even be considered are unobtainable for most people in the countries they’re fleeing from, even when you DO get on the wait list it can literally be over a decade before you’re actually approved for a green card. It’s no wonder people take the quick, risky, and illegal option when they need to get the fuck out of dodge NOW, rather than hoping the bureaucratic process happens before it’s too late.

      and don’t contribute towards funding the service they called.

      Undocumented immigrants pay billions in taxes every single year. Over $10 billion, in fact.

      …and we’re the bad guy here?

      Yes, we’re absolutely the bad guy here.

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      …and we’re the bad guy here?

      Well that’s a silly question to ask. Unless ofc you’re one of those Americans who think less of everyone else.

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        I think rule of law is preferable to anarchy, and I think that theft is wrong.

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          The rule of law says that America must provide emergency services to everyone on American soil. But you don’t like that rule, do you? So you pick and choose which rules to follow then, right?

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            I accept the argument that (assuming that is a law at the state/federal level where it applies here in arizona) the dispatcher should be obligated to make a best-effort same as everyone else. That doesn’t mandate I have sympathy when best-effort doesn’t work out for someone breaking the law in other contexts. Just like you probably wouldn’t have sympathy if a burglar fell down your stairs and broke their neck. Yes the EMS is obligated to help, but I still don’t have sympathy for the guy who just broke into my house and tried to steal my stuff.

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              You’re the one who stood up and said you love the rule of law. Now you want to qualify that cause you were caught in a lie.

              Admit it. You don’t like all the rules. You just like the ones that help you.

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                Clearly OP isn’t a hypocrite or lying and is justified in not having sympathy for anyone breaking the law. Which is understandable as I’m sure OP has never broken any laws by illegally entering a country, breaking into and robbing someone’s house, or worst of all picking up a bird feather. And if OP has ever broken the law I hope there isn’t any expectation of sympathy if refused emergency service when they are needed.