Former President Barack Obama said a way forward for the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is only possible if people acknowledge the “complexity” of the situation.

“If there’s any chance of us being able to act constructively to do something, it will require an admission of complexity and maintaining what on the surface may seem contradictory ideas that what Hamas did was horrific, and there’s no justification for it. And … that the occupation and what’s happening to Palestinians is unbearable,” Obama said in an interview on the podcast “Pod Save America.”

The former president’s comments come as the Israeli military focuses its offensive against Hamas in Gaza City and northern parts of the enclave.

  • stevehobbes@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    The government of Gaza is Hamas, elected in 2007.

    Israeli civilians have also been caught in the crossfire. You know from the terrorist attack they committed 3 weeks ago that killed 1,400 and then the 200 innocent people they kidnapped and imprisoned as hostages somewhere in Gaza, which is what this is all about?

    If Hamas freed the hostages, Israel would have a much harder time conducting this war in the way they are, but you can’t literally kidnap someone’s citizens and expect anything less.

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      What about Netanyahus relationship with the PLO before Hamas. He’s been playing both sides using the fear of Palestinian militants as a political football, just trying to stay elected and ignoring the views of the average secular Israeli.

      Israel is being led by a group of religious extremists.

      It’s complicated, and both sides have committed unbelievable atrocities, but Israeli leadership have overplayed their card. Their crimes over the last few weeks will echo for decades to come.

      My guess it will have the opposite effect than they intended, Israel will lose out in the long term.

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        Netanyahu also stoked the anti-Oslo crazies to the point that Rabin was assassinated. He’s more responsible for the current state of the conflict than anyone, period.

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        Time will tell.

        You’re right that both sides have been awful.

        While Israel may be led by a group of religious extremists, so is Palestine and Gaza specifically by extremist terrorists.

        This round of tit for tat will echo like all the previous rounds over the last 70 years.

        Until Hamas frees the hostages, it’s virtually impossible to overplay the hand.

        This will just be another footnote of ugly killing on both sides in a long history of ugly killings.

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          I’m not so sure. The current geopolitical outlook leaves Israel in a tough spot. With the failure of globalisation and the declining importance of the Middle Eastern hydrocarbons, there is actually a breaking point.

          I don’t necessarily think that breaking point would be reached, but if the current government does not restrain themselves and play their card correctly, it will count against them going forward.

          Despite what Americans think, their previous actions have counted against them, too.

          I’m the modern information age. The old tactics of statecraft and economic dominance fall apart. The opposing axis wanted Israel to respond like this. It’s a huge mistake for them to continue with this approach.

          It’s a multipolar world these days.

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            Which are the poles you see in this multipolar world than were different from the poles over the last 50 years?

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              Did you really just just conflate every Hamas operation as a war crime?

              That’s… Impressive.