Israel’s military began a heavy aerial bombardment of Gaza after nightfall on Friday and announced that it is “expanding” its ground operations into the territory—but did not declare a full-scale ground invasion that has been expected for weeks.Internet and phone service in Gaza has been mostly, if not entirely, cut off amid the bombing. The International Committee of the Red Cross cannot reach its medical personnel. A Washington Post reporter said the paper cannot reach its colleagues, either.S

Some people, communicating via satellite phones, have described the attack as the “heaviest bombardment yet,” according to independent journalist Sharif Kouddous.

“People can’t call ambulances or civil defense. We are being bombed in an unprecedented manner,” said an unidentified journalist at a Gaza hospital, according to a translation by The Nation’s Palestinian correspondent, Mohammed El-Kurd. “The sky around us just lights up [with explosions], and no one knows what’s going on.”

    • TinyPizza@kbin.socialOP
      44·
      1 year ago

      Why the hell are you sending me some guys yuk yuk eli5 take on the situation? Were talking about people here man. I give no shits what Hamas has to say and no shits what Bibi has to say. Hence, neutral 3rd party and binding agreement with no taksey backseys.

        • TinyPizza@kbin.socialOP
          34·
          1 year ago

          it’s called reforms man. Do you think all the people that fought in all the wars of “great and powerful enemies” just went on to loot and plunder the world after the conflicts ended? That these irredeemable souls beyond help had to be liquidated or chained up in a cell? They just went home. Or they went to prison. It gets sorted out. That’s literally how a justice system and reformation works.

          Germany and Japan were considered to be literal monsters and now are some of the most respected countries in the world. It doesn’t happen overnight, but that’s what happens when you give people a path to walk and a future to look forward to that isn’t “die in Gaza prison”

          Have the U.N. come in, hold the ceasefire on both sides and create space for those people to hold new elections once they can breath for a minute. It’s not rocket science.

          • nonailsleft@lemm.eeEnglish
            41·
            1 year ago

            Sounds great, but really that’ll just be the pre-october 7 blockaded Gaza situation but with UN soldiers watching Hamas not pull any shit.

            • TinyPizza@kbin.socialOP
              22·
              1 year ago

              I would imagine with a large enough peace keeping force the pretense for the blockaid would be voided if the eventual outcome would be a binding agreement as I stated elsewhere in the thread. As people love to state, the purpose of Hamas is to destroy Israel. If the accepted outcome of whatever agreement is reached is to be final regardless, then a new incoming government under a democratic framework would be needed quickly as Hamas would be irrelevant.

              Also, who knows what that agreement means for rules or reformations placed on Israels government as well. With a fresh start for both, perhaps the people can move on.

              • mwguy@infosec.pubEnglish
                11·
                1 year ago

                There’s no nation willing to commit enough troops to stop Hamas from starting shit in Gaza.

                Also, who knows what that agreement means for rules or reformations placed on Israels government as well. With a fresh start for both, perhaps the people can move on.

                It’s unrealistic to believe that any ceasefire is going to come with restrictions on Israel government as militarily their the dominant force in the conflict.

              • nonailsleft@lemm.eeEnglish
                11·
                1 year ago

                Wait, are you suggesting a UN force dismantles the state of Israel? Why would they agree to that?

          • idoubledo@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
            34·
            1 year ago

            I don’t know if you’re aware, but Hamas previously had an Israeli hostage that was freed in exchange for around one thousand terrorists from Israeli detention facilities with the aid of a third “neutral” country.

            Do you know where those 1000 or so terrorists spent the 7th of October? I’ll let you guess.

            Also, are you aware of the situation in the north of Israel with the border of Lebanon? Israel previously decided to stop its military campaign (initiated after a chain of terrorist and missile attacks) after getting assurances a UN peace keeping forces will make sure no terrorist organization takes advantage of the war torn Lebanon. Do you want me to describe what the situation is like in that border since?

            “Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.”

            Only someone with no beef in the situation and no knowledge of history will suggest what you are suggesting - I don’t blame you though, you want to help out, but you should start by knowing the history: https://youtu.be/XNf40sBcvKk?si=y_jdp7OsfmD2IvdW

            • TinyPizza@kbin.socialOP
              23·
              1 year ago

              Holy shit. Stop sending me fucking eli5 videos that I will most certainly not watch after affording you a courtesy on the first one. You’ve addressed nothing of what I’ve said in any meaningful way and are just trying to pivot off a bunch of new talking points. I already pointed out what a possible solution is that covers all this stuff. Either systematically refute those points or go play Roblox backrooms, but stop wasting both our time otherwise till the next account clocks in.

              • idoubledo@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
                32·
                1 year ago

                You gave Germany and Japan as examples, do you remember what are the military actions that convinced these countries from committing their atrocities?

                You seem to choose what parts of history you remember. You should take a refresher course in history, or watch the video I linked, it’s really informative I promise.