what does “few” mean in this context? With proton the number of games (developed for Windows) now simply work. And without a bloated OS full of spyware they seem to run actually faster.
However, seeing as everyone has chosen to give me a tuneup with so many downvotes, I’m switching my Linux dual boot from Debian to Manjaro, a supposedly more game-friendly distro. So far Steam has installed just fine, but now I need to rearrange some partitions to make space to try out a few non-steam games and see if they work (stuff from EA/Origin and Epic).
Could you perhaps give us some examples of these games that don’t work? There aren’t really that many of these days, thanks to valve’s work on proton and thanks to the steam deck making developers want to at least not actively break their games the majority work out of the box. Even non-steam games and launchers
EA’s Battlefield franchise right off the top of my head. Tons of effort to get it to start, when it finally did start the sound was a wreck, couldn’t get the resolution set right and the FPS was probably 12-20.
I think I tried Elite: Dangerous, and that wouldn’t start at all.
Lutris appears to have installers available for both of those games. And I know some people that play Elite dangerous on Linux I asked them and they said they didn’t have any issues with it. Was that perhaps very close to its initial release or something? It could just be better now
I tried out all of this a couple times, most recently few years ago before COVID. While I realize nobody here on a pro-Linux sub wants to hear it, Linux is still a minefield of different distros and versions, many of which don’t work quite the same in various subtle ways that can be infuriating to someone trying to grab something off a repository that should work, but doesn’t for the aforementioned reasons. Whereas people here scoff at the premise that this is a flaw, for the vast majority of people it’s the very reason Linux isn’t mainstream outside the IT world. Yeah, unpopular opinion, but it’s from someone who’s been trying to love Linux for 25 years and gets put off by all the little issues.
i won’t argue with you there. i fucking hate people who push mint,Ubuntu, popos, or anything based on apt. it’s literally not designed to be up to date and rolling. People try to band-aid it on with repos but it just leads to systems eating themselves.
valve went with arch Linux on the steamdeck for a reason, it’s designed, from its core, to be rolling. which gaming needs. you need the latest drivers, libs, wine, etc. and there are easy to go arch installers. my favorite is EndeavorOS. sadly you get a similar problem in reverse with shit like manjaro. where they take a perfectly working rolling system and attempt to “stabilize” it with custom repos that arbitrarily hold packages back. and it tends to break a lot.
it’s the double edged sword of open source. i can do what i want, but so can everyone else. and the voice of the stupid is almost never a minority
Have you seen protondb? A pretty impressive number of games just work. Really we are at the point now where games that don’t run are more the exception, and usually it is due to Anti-cheat incompatibility or some very specific issue.
Mines just a bit worse by that measure(37/35/9/4/1), and on the clickplay measure was about 20% tier 1, 20% tier 2, about 15% tier 3, and about 8% each tiers 4 and 5.
I feel like click play is a better measure for average users you’re trying to convert since it’s “how well does it work if I just try to start it” as opposed to “how well can it be made to work if I tinker with it enough”.
Reword the title: The very few games that actually work on Linux work better.
what does “few” mean in this context? With proton the number of games (developed for Windows) now simply work. And without a bloated OS full of spyware they seem to run actually faster.
Have you ever tried it out yourself?
Yep.
Few equals basically none in my case.
However, seeing as everyone has chosen to give me a tuneup with so many downvotes, I’m switching my Linux dual boot from Debian to Manjaro, a supposedly more game-friendly distro. So far Steam has installed just fine, but now I need to rearrange some partitions to make space to try out a few non-steam games and see if they work (stuff from EA/Origin and Epic).
Could you perhaps give us some examples of these games that don’t work? There aren’t really that many of these days, thanks to valve’s work on proton and thanks to the steam deck making developers want to at least not actively break their games the majority work out of the box. Even non-steam games and launchers
EA’s Battlefield franchise right off the top of my head. Tons of effort to get it to start, when it finally did start the sound was a wreck, couldn’t get the resolution set right and the FPS was probably 12-20.
I think I tried Elite: Dangerous, and that wouldn’t start at all.
Lutris appears to have installers available for both of those games. And I know some people that play Elite dangerous on Linux I asked them and they said they didn’t have any issues with it. Was that perhaps very close to its initial release or something? It could just be better now
I tried out all of this a couple times, most recently few years ago before COVID. While I realize nobody here on a pro-Linux sub wants to hear it, Linux is still a minefield of different distros and versions, many of which don’t work quite the same in various subtle ways that can be infuriating to someone trying to grab something off a repository that should work, but doesn’t for the aforementioned reasons. Whereas people here scoff at the premise that this is a flaw, for the vast majority of people it’s the very reason Linux isn’t mainstream outside the IT world. Yeah, unpopular opinion, but it’s from someone who’s been trying to love Linux for 25 years and gets put off by all the little issues.
i won’t argue with you there. i fucking hate people who push mint,Ubuntu, popos, or anything based on apt. it’s literally not designed to be up to date and rolling. People try to band-aid it on with repos but it just leads to systems eating themselves.
valve went with arch Linux on the steamdeck for a reason, it’s designed, from its core, to be rolling. which gaming needs. you need the latest drivers, libs, wine, etc. and there are easy to go arch installers. my favorite is EndeavorOS. sadly you get a similar problem in reverse with shit like manjaro. where they take a perfectly working rolling system and attempt to “stabilize” it with custom repos that arbitrarily hold packages back. and it tends to break a lot.
it’s the double edged sword of open source. i can do what i want, but so can everyone else. and the voice of the stupid is almost never a minority
Have you seen protondb? A pretty impressive number of games just work. Really we are at the point now where games that don’t run are more the exception, and usually it is due to Anti-cheat incompatibility or some very specific issue.
Most of the games I tried worked flawlessly. Some worked better including older games. I only had one game I couldn’t get to run out of like 150+.
Horses for courses.
You can check against your own Steam library here.
https://www.protondb.com/
Mine looks like this which is better than I expected.
Mines just a bit worse by that measure(37/35/9/4/1), and on the clickplay measure was about 20% tier 1, 20% tier 2, about 15% tier 3, and about 8% each tiers 4 and 5.
I feel like click play is a better measure for average users you’re trying to convert since it’s “how well does it work if I just try to start it” as opposed to “how well can it be made to work if I tinker with it enough”.
Yours is even better than mine. 87% of my library is Silver or above.
Someone’s salty.