• PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml
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    Perhaps if Europe claims to care about human rights so much, they should simply stop funding, supporting or otherwise enabling a genocidal state?

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    So, all those more or less rich mulsim countries in the area they better spent billions on stupid megalomaniac construction projects in the desert, on weapons production and war mongering but they can’t take in as refugees the very people they are encouraging and arming to fight. And all of that because Israel is wrong in what they are doing. Did I miss anything?

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      Do you understand the sheer scale of a million refugees? That these refugees will never be allowed back?

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        A sixth of the current Ukranian refugees, I believe.

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      Yeah, the fact that their militaries are equally as useless without US bases lol.

      Living example: Yemen

      Sometimes I wish the USA would leave just so I can watch Iran and KSA kick each other in the crotch, and then get promptly invaded by Yemen.

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    Allowing Gazans to be made into refugees (again) is participating in the ethnic cleansing of Palestine.

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      Yeah let’s not just pretend this is an easy issue. These people can permanently give up their home and and become permanent residents in whatever country they flee to just because Israel would never let them back in.

      And 1million is a lot of people to calm down and care for after their houses were bombed to rubble so the crater marked earth could be turned into a night club for tourists to the worlds largest open museum.

      Egypt isn’t wrong to say this is an impossible choice to make. Especially while no one can punish the bullies. Heck no one can even disagree with the bully anymore. They may be hypocrites but doesn’t mean their isn’t truth in it.

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      That would probably be the optimal, least deadly, resolution to this whole mess. Thing is, nobody (not even other arabs, apparently) wants a huge number of extremely pissed off arabs.

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    this also implies that Egypt, or rather their current government does not care about human rights so much.

    I will find every reason to hate on sisi lmao

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    There’s a lot of Europe in Europe.

    The ones that should be taking in refugees are the very same who very openly went to lick Netanyahu’s arse in Israel whilst he was having his people kill children by the 1000s in Gaza: Mr Sunak, Monsieur Macron and Herr Scholz.

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      Israel’s population is roughly 10M, so this would add 10% people with 24.42/3.4 birth/death rate to their population. If those rates continue, they would guarantee a population change in Israel in a few generations. So they cannot practically do that.

      Those rates are incidentally also the main reason why Gaza’s average age is so low.

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      That’s just a dumb take… Europe took up over for million refugees from Ukraine. Because it’s the neighbouring countries that should help first and foremost. Kind of like what Egypt could do now… But instead they’re crying that the EU half a continent away should take care of it.

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        Egypt already has syrian refugees and subsaharan refugees in addition to the recent influx because of the sudanese civil war.

        Either way, the current regime violently overthrew, imprisoned, tortured and eventually killed the democratically elected previous regime which has ties and many many sympathizers in Gaza. Meaning that the cocksucking son of a removed sisi will never let them in, because he’s afraid of another revolution

        Plus leaked talks from Mubarak (two egyptian presidents ago) literally have bibi pointing at gaza and saying i want to move them elsewhere and pointed at sinai. If Palestinians go to sinai they are never coming home.

        Not to mention that ISIS is in sinai…

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      Since the war in Ukraine started, the EU accepted more than four million refugees from Ukraine. Because that’s what you do as the next countries.

      You know what the EU didn’t do? Shit on Egypt for not taking refugees from Ukraine. Because that would have been stupid, right? Right?

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          Well, let’s just take a look at the article…

          Egypt official tells Europe to take in 1m Gazans

          Oh, look, it’s literally in the first half of the title!

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            Sorry if this was unclear. Was Egypt suggesting that the EU should let in more people from Ukraine? Like how the EU suggested Egypt should let in more people from Palestine.

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                But it would be pretty out of line for Egypt to tell the EU to accept more people from Ukraine, right? That’s what they’re getting at. The reason Egypt is annoyed by this is because their resources are being volunteered by someone else.

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      To move out of a country, you need to give up your possessions and you need to have some money to pay a few things on your way without being able to work.

      EU, especially Germany has encoded free asylum for people who have to flee a country in their constitution. What do you want more?

      Everyone is looking at Egypt and Jordan. These are the next countries that could act. But they are shitting at the EU. Well, fuck those hypocrites.

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        Do Egypt and Jordan not already have Palestinian refugees? I know Jordan definitely does. And it’s not small number; it’s hundreds of thousands, maybe even a million or more. Though according to Wikipedia, at least Jordan has given most Jordanian citizenship.

        With regards to Egypt, can they handle that number of refugees? 2 million Gazans? That’s a lot of people. And it’s not like Egypt is some super wealthy country. And the Sinai isn’t exactly a great place to host 2million peolpe.

        I don’t think there’s a single country that can readily accept that many refugees in short order, while properly feeding and housing them, and integrating them, without experiencing massive issues for both citizens and refugees.

        That’s not to say that it’s right for Egypt to snipe at the EU, especially with a comment like that. But it’s not like either country can realistically deal with additional refugees. That’s part of what makes this whole thing a shitshow. There are few good options. And the few options that are good or better, people or governments refuse.

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          egypt is a wreck of a dictatorship and jordan is a puppet nation propped up as a buffer for isreal , neither can do shit