The fructose in fruit isn’t as easily absorbed due to fibre. Also there’s a natural limit to how much we can consume, no one eats 20 oranges in one sitting.
Nevertheless we are physically limited by our stomach capacity and would be very unlikely to consume bioavailable fructose at the rates made possible by industrial fructose such as HFCS.
@Mr_Blott yeah it quite possibly is my browser. Will check sometime. Anyway, whatever the reason, it’s helpful to me when I’m on big threads.
It’s easy to do - kbin pre-populates the comment reply button with your name so it’s not like I have to type it out. (I think this feature is here because we also interact with Mastodon, but it’s also useful over here).
@msage even that isn’t as hard on the liver as processed orange juice that has no fibre in it. But it’s the things that have extra fructose added into them that I would be wary of.
An Australian guy did a documentary where he ate the exact same number of calories he’d eaten before, and worked out just as much, but he went for food with added fructose. It’s really interesting.
I personally aim for under 10g refined sugar / day and find that works well for me. If juice is something that is important to you, a glass a couple times a week is probably fine. Drinking it with or shortly after a meal might help by slowing digestion.
I used to drink orange juice every day - it’s so good … but after stopping and starting many times, I realized how much worse I feel when I’m less disciplined about sugar. My doctor was actually suggesting I consider surgery to relieve pain in my wrists, but I’ve been largely pain free since I started watching sugar intake (~8 years).
The study is not saying that fructose is the root cause of obesity from what I see (search doesn’t work properly there). I’m not sure if in such a complex mechanism as a human body a single cause of obesity can exist. Additionally, our bodies differ and a single mutation can change the outcome of the whole process from what I know.
The title is so misleading that it borders on lying.
The root cause of all obesity everywhere is not fructose. That implies that if you don’t eat fructose or generate fructose, you will not be obese. Fructose might be contributing factor to obesity, but it is hardly a root cause or “the” root cause.
I overstepped on my comment but after years of being vehiculated as an healthy sugar, this is the kind of title capable of triggering that sort of thought.
And agreed. It may be a part of the problem but it is risky to say this or that is the root of the obesity problem.
So, is this an open door to scare people away from fruit?
@qyron fruit is healthy.
The fructose in fruit isn’t as easily absorbed due to fibre. Also there’s a natural limit to how much we can consume, no one eats 20 oranges in one sitting.
That sounds like a challenge to me…
@FleetingTit I’m still haunted by that scene in Se7en where the guy has “striations” in his stomach from being forced to over eat.
Unless they are looking for a serious case of the runs.
But I admit to have over indulged on this particular fruit more than once.
@qyron grapefruit is my particular achilles heel!
Nevertheless we are physically limited by our stomach capacity and would be very unlikely to consume bioavailable fructose at the rates made possible by industrial fructose such as HFCS.
You know you don’t have to @ people, we can see who you’re replying to, mate :)
@Mr_Blott thanks but I find it easier this way because I’m on kbin.social and when some lemmy threads get big they don’t nest properly for me.
Cool but clearly that’s a problem with your browser or client because nobody else on kbin is doing this
@Mr_Blott yeah it quite possibly is my browser. Will check sometime. Anyway, whatever the reason, it’s helpful to me when I’m on big threads.
It’s easy to do - kbin pre-populates the comment reply button with your name so it’s not like I have to type it out. (I think this feature is here because we also interact with Mastodon, but it’s also useful over here).
The runs? No. A run to the store to buy more Tums is more likely.
When in doubt, both!
So like freshly squeezed orange juice in large quantities?
@msage even that isn’t as hard on the liver as processed orange juice that has no fibre in it. But it’s the things that have extra fructose added into them that I would be wary of.
An Australian guy did a documentary where he ate the exact same number of calories he’d eaten before, and worked out just as much, but he went for food with added fructose. It’s really interesting.
That Sugar Film.
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How is fruit juice unhealthy?
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So even 100% pure squeezed juice is bad?
Treat drinking any kind of juice - even orange juice - as if you are splurging on a dessert. That’s the best way to frame it as part of your diet
Screwdrivers are a sometimes food.
Yeh juice is just a softdrink with a good marketing team (fruit). Fruit is good though, save yourself the effort of juicing it :)
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I personally aim for under 10g refined sugar / day and find that works well for me. If juice is something that is important to you, a glass a couple times a week is probably fine. Drinking it with or shortly after a meal might help by slowing digestion.
I used to drink orange juice every day - it’s so good … but after stopping and starting many times, I realized how much worse I feel when I’m less disciplined about sugar. My doctor was actually suggesting I consider surgery to relieve pain in my wrists, but I’ve been largely pain free since I started watching sugar intake (~8 years).
Try fruit nectars. The entire fruit is used and water is added to dilute the puree to a more liquid state.
Just make sure there’s a bathroom available if you want to try prune nectar.
Yuck.
Peach, apricot, apple, pear…
Who was the sadist that created that?
No, the study is talking about other sources of fructose:
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1002/oby.23920
The study is not saying that fructose is the root cause of obesity from what I see (search doesn’t work properly there). I’m not sure if in such a complex mechanism as a human body a single cause of obesity can exist. Additionally, our bodies differ and a single mutation can change the outcome of the whole process from what I know.
The title is so misleading that it borders on lying.
The root cause of all obesity everywhere is not fructose. That implies that if you don’t eat fructose or generate fructose, you will not be obese. Fructose might be contributing factor to obesity, but it is hardly a root cause or “the” root cause.
No, the title is completely correct - but you should read the article accompanying it ;) Have you tried it?
I overstepped on my comment but after years of being vehiculated as an healthy sugar, this is the kind of title capable of triggering that sort of thought.
And agreed. It may be a part of the problem but it is risky to say this or that is the root of the obesity problem.
this comment is an open door to brain rot