An Iranian girl, aged 16, has been left in a coma and is being treated in hospital under heavy security after an assault on the Tehran subway, a rights group said on Tuesday, blaming the Islamic republic's notorious morality police.
It’s only Islamists that beat girls to death for not wearing the right headgear, or stone people to death for committing adultery, or execute people for being gay, or strap bombs to themselves and try and kill as many innocent people as possible. Yes … all religions are stupid and most are regressive and have crazy rules. But one religion is objectively far worse than all the rest put together (and I include the vile christian conservatives in that group).
From what I can recall, when muslim do bad shit, people tend to comment that islam is shit. But when christians do bad shit, people tend to comment that religion is shit.
I don’t know. It might be some weird confirmation bias where I feel like muslims as a whole get more targeted hate when I actually want to hate you all equally.
Religion is a tool that comes in very handy for patriarchy. And all major religions are patriarchal because patriarchy came first. But religion is not a necessary nor sufficient condition for patriarchy to flourish. Patriarchy twists everything to its own purpose. That’s the whole suffocating thing about power. It can protect itself like nothing else can.
People make decisions with constrained choices. If you’re a woman livng in a patriarchal society which limits your ability to earn an income, and will demonise you for not staying home with your children, then you need to reliably attach yourself to a man who can earn the income you can’t. That’s how the marriage bar was justified. (Middle-class) married women were denied (white collar) employment to make more room for men to advance their careers. And why there are mixed feelings about divorce. Being trapped in marriage is no fun but neither is being abandoned with limited ability to earn a living alone.
Hostile sexism tends to co-exist with benevolent sexism. In places where there is a lot of anti-woman sexism, the women tend to hold more hostile and more benevolent views of men (eg men are violent therefore I need a big strong man to protect me).
Patriarchy predates monotheistic religions by quite some time, and was not (is not) religiously codified into all polytheistic religions. Hinduism for example is not explicitly patriarchal. Patriarchy in ancient Greece was similarly not explicitly religiously-motivated - rather, Ancient Greeks imposed their (at the time, current) cultural norms upon their religion, which was significantly more malleable than modern monotheistic (e.g. Abrahamic) religions.
In fact, very strong arguments can be made that patriarchy shaped religion, as opposed to the other way around.
See Romans in the Bible, for an easily-googleable example of one man imposing his personal ideas onto a nascent church.
Religion of peace!
Just like catholicism is the religion of adult hetero-normies.
They’re all scams
Why is it than when someone criticizes muslim, there is always a comment replying “bUt CaThOlIcISm or bUt ChRiStIaNiSm”
Yes, all religions are shit.
Because so many people like to pretend it’s only Muslims with problems
oh please. this entire place cries about christianity 100x more than they do about islam.
I was speaking more broadly than just on Lemmy.
It’s only Islamists that beat girls to death for not wearing the right headgear, or stone people to death for committing adultery, or execute people for being gay, or strap bombs to themselves and try and kill as many innocent people as possible. Yes … all religions are stupid and most are regressive and have crazy rules. But one religion is objectively far worse than all the rest put together (and I include the vile christian conservatives in that group).
In this minute of history, in certain parts of the world, in certain social circles.
Yes, yes and yes. Christianity in the middle ages was responsible for all manner of brutality. No argument there. It doesn’t change my assertion.
By the way, instead of saying “in this minute of history” you can just say “now” … it sounds less pompous.
This here. Racists be racisting.
reddit moment
No, I agree. Muslims, Christians, catholics, all are idiots.
From what I can recall, when muslim do bad shit, people tend to comment that islam is shit. But when christians do bad shit, people tend to comment that religion is shit.
I don’t know. It might be some weird confirmation bias where I feel like muslims as a whole get more targeted hate when I actually want to hate you all equally.
That last paragraph is chef’s kiss.
This is patriarchy, not religion.
If is is patriarchy, it is caused by religion.
Just a coincidence that every single religion came up with it, and China retains it despite having got rid of religion.
Yeah, that makes loads of sense. Sure you’re right. Carry on, nothing to see here.
Religion = Patriarchy
No religion =/= No Patriarchy
Don’t get confused.
Religion is a tool that comes in very handy for patriarchy. And all major religions are patriarchal because patriarchy came first. But religion is not a necessary nor sufficient condition for patriarchy to flourish. Patriarchy twists everything to its own purpose. That’s the whole suffocating thing about power. It can protect itself like nothing else can.
I agree that it went like this:
Patriarchy -> Religion -> Patriarchy
I’ll never understand why women nowadays are still servant of religion. “Yes, ill serve my man. I’m nothing but a baby carrier”. It’s crazy.
People make decisions with constrained choices. If you’re a woman livng in a patriarchal society which limits your ability to earn an income, and will demonise you for not staying home with your children, then you need to reliably attach yourself to a man who can earn the income you can’t. That’s how the marriage bar was justified. (Middle-class) married women were denied (white collar) employment to make more room for men to advance their careers. And why there are mixed feelings about divorce. Being trapped in marriage is no fun but neither is being abandoned with limited ability to earn a living alone.
Hostile sexism tends to co-exist with benevolent sexism. In places where there is a lot of anti-woman sexism, the women tend to hold more hostile and more benevolent views of men (eg men are violent therefore I need a big strong man to protect me).
Patriarchy predates monotheistic religions by quite some time, and was not (is not) religiously codified into all polytheistic religions. Hinduism for example is not explicitly patriarchal. Patriarchy in ancient Greece was similarly not explicitly religiously-motivated - rather, Ancient Greeks imposed their (at the time, current) cultural norms upon their religion, which was significantly more malleable than modern monotheistic (e.g. Abrahamic) religions.
In fact, very strong arguments can be made that patriarchy shaped religion, as opposed to the other way around.
See Romans in the Bible, for an easily-googleable example of one man imposing his personal ideas onto a nascent church.