• JWBananas@startrek.website
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    Edit to add: This is a sad justification to be involved in ending human life, regardless of merit.


    It’s especially peanuts when you consider that the VA won’t have to take care of the veterans either. In the long-term, that’s where most of the funding actually goes after you put boots on the ground.


    Edit to add:

    The costs of caring for post-9/11 war vets will reach between $2.2 and $2.5 trillion by 2050 — most of which has not yet been paid.

    Source:

    https://watson.brown.edu/costsofwar/costs/economic/budget/veterans

    That is roughly 1/3 of the total estimated past/future costs of the wars.

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        It is Patton by proxy - “The object of war is not to die for your country, but to make the other bastard to die for his.” Except instead of “the other bastard” being an enemy, it’s your allies.

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      Don’t worry, there’s still going to be plenty of vets who “hurt their backs” during training excersize and get lifetime disability pay. I got a cousin who brags about his.

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        Yes your cousin is still allowed to have a comfortable life after being hurt on military duty… That’s not “bragging”. That’s being recompensed.

        I bet if you actually talk to your cousin about the stuff they miss out on in life due to their disability… You’ll find that the trade still isn’t worth it. Things like being able to play with their kids without worrying about debilitating pain. But you know… At least they don’t have to actively work to live a normal life.

        Even if they’re 100% disabled. I don’t know anyone who “brags” about $45k a year. I have military associated hearing loss. The time I waste every day just trying to parse things other people are saying isn’t worth the ~$200 a month I’m given for it.

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          Ya, so he’s not really disabled. If his back does actually hurt it’s cuz he’s fat. He’s scamming the system and votes Trump because only he deserves a second free income.

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            If his back does actually hurt it’s cuz he’s fat.

            That’s a stupid amounts of ableist…

            Has it occurred to you that they might be “fat” because they can’t be as active as they once were in service… because they’re now disabled?

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              Yes, you definitely know my cousin I see multiple times a year better than me. The multiple times he’s admitted he’s gaming the system to my face mean nothing. He’s super disabled. You are right. I’m a bad person who has no idea what I am talking about.

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                The multiple times he’s admitted he’s gaming the system to my face mean nothing.

                It could very well be his way of coping… A lot of people wit disabilities don’t want to be treated as less than… and making you believe that he’s “gaming” the system is a better outcome in their mind than you treating them as less of a human for being disabled.

                “Gaming” the system in this case would require many doctors to sign off on his disability. And yes, I will believe trained doctors over you simply talking with him.

                I’m a bad person who has no idea what I am talking about.

                When you equate all veterans (or even just “plenty”) to what you believe your cousin to be doing? Yes…