Well, Alex Pretti got shot either way. If he had taken a couple with him I would call that something gained.

I think a major point here is that these goons can act with impunity because most people haven’t internalised yet that if you’re being arrested or raided by them there’s a high chance you’ll be killed or disappeared to El Salvador. At some point, the best you can do is just to try to take a couple of them with you. Once people start treating interactions with them as the life threatening situations they are, they’re going to have a lot harder of a time.