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    According to the polls, both Biden and Trump will inevitably be nominated but neither Biden nor Trump can win.

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        I would 100% prefer TayTay to Biden or trump…

        Plus, it would really piss off all the “moderate” Dems because they refuse to admit Clinton couldnt win because of anything besides her gender.

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          I am most assuredly HRCs biggest fan on this entire site, and she lost because her name was dragged through the mud for over a decade before 2016. People still say “Benghazi” as if they know or care about what Benghazi is.

          Her sex had nothing to do with it.

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      I don’t know many people these days who will ever talk favorably about a politician, because inevitably you’ll look like an idiot for it. But we’ll still vote for the guy.

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        That’s because someone will get into power regardless of whether you vote or not and it’s better to vote for the lesser of two evils than the greater. Yes, it is important to push for better candidates, but when it comes to Election Day, you can’t really say “Well, it’s A or B, but I really want C.”

        Also, while both political parties have their faults, this is by no means “Both Sides Are Equally Awful.” I like using a taxi analogy. You’re on 8th Street and want to go to 2nd Street. Before you are two taxis: A Blue Taxi and the Red Taxi. Neither taxi will take you to 2nd Street. The Blue one will take you to 4th Street. The Red one will take you in the opposite direction, to 20th Street, before driving you off a cliff.

        As I said before, not choosing isn’t an option as then others will decide which taxi you go into. Therefore you need to choose which cab to go into. Now, neither is ideal, but it’s a lot easier to go from 4th Street to your original destination than from the bottom of a cliff near 20th Street. Therefore, the Blue one is the better pick even if it’s not a perfect choice.

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    The poll surveyed 1,000 registered voters between Sept. 19-20, and had the margin of error varied across questions, reported as 3 percentage points. Numbers have been rounded.

    Who were these registered voters? What was the demographics breakdown? How were they contacted? What was the methodology? Were the questions loaded?

    Of course, the press never asks any of this.

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      That’s a great point. I’d also like to throw in the question “what kind of person stops to answer these polls?”. I don’t feel like younger folks are going to be quite as keen. Politics as an identity tends to be an older generational thing.

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        This is the biggest issues I have with pills right now. The younger demos don’t answer phones, so the responses are going to be skewed, and I can’t imagine there are many places that can reasonably do in person polling with any kind of reasonable mixes of demos.

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      Of course, the press never asks any of this.

      The horse race reporters might not, but pollsters do. They worry about this sort of thing a lot, and try to correct for it, when possible.

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      There’s a link below to the poll questions, but it doesn’t say how the people were contacted. Given the answers about if they are voting for a Republican or Democrat and more worried about Biden’s mental health over Trump’s, I’m pretty sure these were phone calls, which of course, aren’t accurate of the whole populace. It’s all bullshit if you rely only on who picks up the phone.

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      Are you trying to tell me that numbers are not, in fact, God? Are you trying to suggest that I shouldn’t trust that big number better than small number?

      How will I ever navigate the real world?

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    On the other hand…The seven candidates on the Republican presidential debate stage last night are collectively polling at around 37% — a full 16 points below Donald Trump

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    I was traveling through central and eastern Washington State yesterday and I discovered a few new roadside Trump support banners up. At a restaurant in Ellensburg I saw two guys wearing Trump hats. These were a new style, not the famous one. Why do the farming communities still see Trump as a good leader? Mind boggling. The rural Washington voter is constantly voting against their own best interests and I don’t mind asking them why but it never fails to come down to some bullshit right wing propaganda that is easy to point out but because I don’t believe the propaganda, and question them about it, I become part of the problem. And discussing it usually just leads to them digging their heels in deeper.

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      You’ll never, ever, change the pov of a cultist if you reveal yourself as an outsider. You have to play the angle of being one of them or being undecided. It helps if you’re genuine about it and make yourself open to their ideas.

      That being said, some people are illogical and can only be convinced out of a cult by using the same faulty logic that’d got them in. E.g: “Trump is deep state controlled opposition’s but he doesn’t know.”.

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    If America had a collective functioning brain, he would be at 100% and NASA would have researched how to launch him into the sun.

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    Former President Trump’s unfavorability among registered voters has topped 55 percent, according to a new poll.

    A NewsNation/Decision Desk HQ poll found roughly 44 percent had a “very unfavorable” view of Trump, the highest such rating across the other seven GOP contenders tested.

    Trump’s numbers come as he faces a myriad of legal battles, including multiple criminal indictments, while he campaigns to return for another four years in the White House.

    Citing his significant lead in polling, he skipped the first GOP presidential debate and plans to do so for the second debate on Wednesday night, as his fellow 2024 Republican contenders gather in Simi Valley, Calif.

    Hutchinson didn’t make the cut for the party’s second debate stage in California.

    The poll surveyed 1,000 registered voters between Sept. 19-20, and had the margin of error varied across questions, reported as 3 percentage points.


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