• Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Finally! Now with Hunter Biden’s laptop data, they have all the secrets of everything.

    From how Libs planned Jan 6, to flat Earth, to how COVID was planned in a Chinese laboratory to wipe out conservatives, to climate change hoax…

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        “Researching a new novel virus to prevent a public health issue and negligently releasing it” is a far cry from “created a new virus for world domination evil plan time”, to be clear.

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            By bringing it up, you create the false perception that it is a larger chance then the miniscule possibility it actually is.

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                Because it jumped from an animal to a human, just like every other virus we’ve ever suffered from. If you’ve ever worked in agricultural, you’ll know the massive amount of antibiotics it takes to keep animals raised for food healthy. Take that away, like in a wet market, and it’s not shocking a virus would emerge.

                There is also the government response of trying to cover it up instead of coming down hard. If it was from a lab they would have known exactly what it was capable of and that they couldn’t hide it. The lab in question also had a mix of international scientists so it would have been even more difficult to keep a leak under wraps.

                There is also the fact that lots of rightwing chuds would love it to have come from a lab, because that shifts the focus from managing a virus, to punishing someone for causing a virus. Turning boring precautions into emotionally satisfying revenge. So people want it to have come from a lab and will jump on to anything that confirms that bias.

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                  You have no idea what you are talking about. It came from the lab, easy to catch, low symptoms. Then was shared in residence from “doctor” to “wet market worker”. If you know, you know.

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            Are you making a point about something? Nobody is arguing that it did or didn’t start spreading from the lab.

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                I don’t think you can assume they’re downvoting you for that reason.

                A lot of people have used the suspected origin of the spread to imply that the conspiracy theories were correct all along. In fact, YOU replying with the origin appears to have the same purpose. Otherwise it’s just not even relevant information. Either way, the downvotes are justified.

                That one person arguing with you is either confused or just reflexively arguing.

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                I believe that it may have been released from the Wuhan lab inadvertently. And I’m downvoting you

                Because when you first brought up the Wuhan lab it was as a rebuttal to somebody talking about the conspiracy theory that it was a bioweapon engineered to eliminate conservatives. So while you may be right about it’s origins, it makes it seem like you are trying to defend that conspiracy theory, whether you actually are or not

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        If someone drowns in the ocean, they don’t think it was because there was a lifeguard there. The lifeguard was there because it was an area with a high risk of people drowning.

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      Remember that time Rudy the cyber-security expert said someone hacked his Twitter account because he autolinked a URL and some heroic American bought the domain to say how much of a crook Trump is?

      Funniest thing until the Four Seasons Total Landscaping fiasco.

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      The lawsuit against Giuliani and Costello claims they used Hunter Biden’s username to gain access to his data,

      Depends on what you mean by “hacking,” but generally speaking it just means bypassing digital security. Like how it’s still breaking and entering even if you use a key, or even if the door is unlocked. Legally speaking, “hacking” includes accessing something without permission, regardless of how easy it was to access.

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        It’s also why social engineering is considered a form of hacking even though someone might willingly give you access to what was secured.

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        Correct, even violating TOS can count under the CFAA, meaning you could log into your spouse’s social media with their permission, but if that platform says it’s against TOS, it’s a crime, since you’re accessing their equipment in violation of those agreements.

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      That depends. If they bypassed the Windows logon in any way to get to the data, that can be construed as hacking per the CFAA. Since that data is normally protected by a Windows logon in all legitimate cases, it can be construed as hacking.

      Not to mention to purchase of a stolen hard hard drive.

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    What’s crazy is forgetting you even dropped off a laptop at a service center. How high were you? Wait, no need to answer that.

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      I’m pretty sure what’s being alleged is that there is real data exfiltrated from his devices on the laptop, but the laptop itself wasn’t his. As in he was hacked, someone created the laptop with that data and added manipulations to it, then coincidently dropped it off to be “found”.

      Given the lack of proper chain of custody, it’s probably likely.

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        That reminds me, I need to book a flight from here on the west coast to go get my laptop fixed at some obscure shop in N.J. Damn, I wish someone out here was blind enough to fix laptops.

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        Nope, the allegation is that they had his laptop, but they modified some content in his harddisk to make it look like he put it there. The laptop itself isn’t in question, some of the content is.

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          From Washington Post:

          In the lawsuit, Biden does not concede that the laptop was his, but he does acknowledge that at least “some of the data that Defendants obtained, copied, and proceeded to hack into and tamper with belongs” to him. The lawsuit charges that Biden’s data was “manipulated, altered and damaged before it was copied and sent” to Giuliani and Costello.

          He specifically says some of his private data was hacked, he’s not saying the laptop they had was his, just they definitely had his private data.

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      As someone who runs a shop much like the one claiming to have been used by Hunter, when people leave their devices we don’t get to do whatever we want with their data.

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        No doubt. I’m not saying anything in support of the guys who capitalized on the laptop. I’m just talking about how you can even forget you dropped off a laptop for service. May be its because I don’t have the fuck you money he probably has, but it’s mind boggling to me.

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          Tbh I still don’t understand how people can leave their shit but we’ve got shelves full of devices we’ve fixed and no one answers the call to pick it up. There’s a laptop sitting on the shelf that’s been here longer than me and I’ve met the customer multiple times they just always say “I’ll be back in a couple weeks for it.”

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        Worked in a shady little PC repair shop.

        If the owner was in one of the stores, he would “personally oversee” shall we say data retention? If the customer was a young (legal, as in not CP, but creepy age difference) woman.

        Yeah, he backed up their data and looked for nudes. I was too young to know how to handle it, so when he said he couldn’t pay me (even after it was due) I told him to fuck off.

        I hope he fucked one of the day time strippers he spent most of his “office time” (the office being a strip club) with and wound up with an incurable STD.

        I hope his wife found out. I hope she took him for everything.