As Smartphone Industry Sputters, the iPhone Expands Its Dominance::Apple, which is set to release a new iPhone on Tuesday, has increased its share of smartphone sales by converting Android customers and adding teenagers.

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    I’m just opposed to their brand ethos. They always complicate things in the name of simplicity.

    apple mice have 1 button to click, and that this decision was made (in the 80s) because they thought 2 button mice would confuse the average user.

    … and now apple users command + click all the time, like that isn’t more complicated.

    That’s not why I hate apple, but it is why I hate apple. They perpetually put the cart before the horse.

    “We stopped including a charger in the box to help the environment”

    Actually this means more boxes are being created in total and this is worse for the environment. 🤦‍♂️

    Edit: God you apple stans are annoying af. I guess y’all are just an extension of their obnoxious ethos lol.

    • LifeInOregon@lemmy.world
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      Apple Mice have had right click for 14 years, and their trackpads have used two finger click in its place far longer than that. And before that, any two button mouse worked just fine in OS X from 2001 on (earlier if you ran the beta of OS X). So your information is anywhere from two decades to one and a half decades out of date. Well done.

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        Someone’s mad.

        So what you’re saying is they put the cart before the horse and eventually succumbed to the market pressure of their mistakes.

        Got it.

        Oh look, they did it again.

        What’s really sad is that you’re out here promoting a trillion dollar company for free. Well done.

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            No, just responding to their cheeky “well done” comment.

            Just because you say someone is projecting doesn’t make it true.

            I like how you Apple stans keep proving my point about the brand’s borderline toxic ethos.

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              Acting like someone is a corporate shill just because they don’t agree with you reeks of butthurt

              Out here calling people names but anyone that doesn’t agree with you are the toxic ones, lol

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                  You seem to be upset that this isn’t an echo chamber. And yes, I’ll be sure to touch some grass as soon as I clock out.

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                    Now who’s projecting?

                    I am in no way upset, my guy. It’s clear you are, though.

                    Cheers.

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      I agree with you and the OP of this thread. I don’t want to support a company with a walled garden approach and they over complicate things to be unique

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      “We stopped including a charger in the box to help the environment”

      Actually this means more boxes are being created in total and this is worse for the environment.

      How so? That thought only works if you think they still manufacture the same amount of chargers and package them. Which would be pretty dumb given that they aren’t guaranteed a sell. Also, who doesn’t have a bunch of different chargers already?

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          Lots of ‘mights’ and ‘ifs’. No concrete evidence. Also they write that it might spread out across lots of manufacturers. And not only that, this is an article from when the iPhone 12 got released, which was the first to include a USB-C to lightning adding to the worry.

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            Again, you’re free to use Google and continue your research yourself. There are lots of them. I took the top result, I didn’t vet it because the mountain of evidence is overwhelming.

            Cheers.

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        Lmao, are you forgetting they also changed the cable from standard usb to lightning to USB c to lightning after they stopped including the brick?

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          Yeah, because everything is transitioning to USB-C and that’s a good thing. They made that switch when they removed USB A ports from their Macs.

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            They only made the jump to USB-C because they were forced to. They would have loved to stay on their proprietary hardware for as long as possible.

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              Rumor is they wanted to wait to go portless. In current state Qi chargers work on iPhones but they don’t charge as quickly as their proprietary MagSafe connector which I find ridiculous so I’m glad they had to add a standard port

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                lol god forbid I don’t agree with y’all on one specific criticism of Apple. There’s plenty they do I criticize. Still mad about the 3.5 mm Jack and their repair bs is hypocritical

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              It does create less waste. If someone buys an iPad, Apple Watch, and iPhone they can charge them all off one usbc brick. Doesn’t need to be Apple brand. I use an Anker one myself. Same thing with their cheap headphones that used to come with the phone. I had accumulated a bunch of crappy headphones I never used over the course of a decade.

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      Speaking of annoying af. Look at you, you’re the same. You’re not anti-apple, you’re just pro-anti.

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      Apple devices have had right click for a while now. It’s a two finger press.

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            Wrong how? The Microsoft mouse was released in 1983 with 2 buttons. The first time Macs had a second mouse button was with OSX which was released in 2001.

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              Macs have always supported right mouse clicks. They’re just unnecessary in most cases. On top of that, no one Cmd+clicks because there aren’t anymore 1-button mice since the new mice are multitouch surfaces.

              So, in other words, he’s wrong for multiple reasons.

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                  I also love when people are confidently wrong. OS8 supported 2-button mice, along with OS9, and OSX. You’re confusing the fact that Apple’s mice didn’t have 2 buttons with whether or not any 2-button mice worked. I know because I owned one. On top of that, you can still, to this day, emulate OS8 and OS9 and use the “secondary” click.

                  So are you going to admit you were wrong or are you going to gaslight me and tell me I didn’t use a two-button mouse more than 2 decades ago?

                  http://www.gearlive.com/index.php/news/article/why-apple-makes-a-one-buttoned-mouse-01280820/

                  “Apple supports multi-button mice. Right out of the box. Furthermore, this is not a ‘new feature’ of OS X. Support for contextual menus (the primary use for the two button mouse) have been around since OS 8.6, which is now more than seven years old. Let me repeat, Apple supports multi-button mice.”

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                    After a deep dive of research into ADB and reading about the extended mouse protocol, i relent that yes Apple did support multiple mouse buttons for a long time.

                    However, also seeing that Apple’s own first party multi-button mouse that supported right clicking only came out in 2005… your point is just like saying that old cars with 8-track playes supports Spotify cause i have my phone auxed into a converter.

                    So, factually, you’re correct. But his point still stands.