Guys, Here’s What It’s Actually Like to Be a Woman
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You have no idea what you’re doing. Not when it comes to sex and dating and women, anyway. Don’t beat yourself up about it though, because it’s not your fault. Your culture has fa…
  • Gaywallet (they/it)@beehaw.orgM
    5·
    2 years ago

    I believe you’re absolutely correct to criticize and point out that this would be a much better article if it were written by a woman. With that being said, there’s probably a decent number of people who might pay it more credence because it’s written by a man. If the goal was to appeal to the very people who probably need to be educated the most, it could have been helpful to include quotes by women or to have made it clear that women were consulted when this was written (I’m making an educated guess that this was the case here, but it’s entirely possible this is not true).

    It is clear, however, as you read through the article that there’s a significant amount of bias and that perhaps not all that many women were consulted. Either that or they wrote some of these sentences with hyperbole in mind, to make it more palatable or easy to understand for the men who need this education. It was a bit disappointing to see them unintentionally reinforcing beauty norms, for example, when they make statements such as

    She doesn’t typically consider what men actually find attractive or she misunderstands it completely.

    I hope, however naively, that this kind of article does appeal to and helps to slowly shift the minds of those who need it most - men who are unintentionally or ignorantly sexist or are struggling with dating due to cultural norms they haven’t deconstructed yet.

        • Chris Remington@beehaw.org
          5·
          2 years ago

          As admins, how do we want to handle submissions (posts) in light of what was uncovered by @MicholasMouse@beehaw.org?

          The authors are both incredibly suspect here and, IMHO, should be rejected from any mention on this instance. Questioning the prevailing science around a pandemic with human lives at stake? Egregious, insulting and harmful statements directed at certain individuals?

          • Gaywallet (they/it)@beehaw.orgM
            4·
            2 years ago

            I think @MicholasMouse hits on a lot of the same thoughts I have on the issue. There is ultimately a potential good that can come from an article like this. Pointing out the problems with the authors is a good practice which can help to frame what’s here better and can help people to learn where the authors fall flat or what they didn’t consider when writing this article.

            A blanket rejection isn’t warranted, I don’t think, especially when the poster attempts to frame that it’s a problematic article. I think that @thursday_j did a great job giving this an appropriate title for the downsides/problems with the article. I also think this discussion we’ve been having is a good example of how to discuss problematic content, without removing it from the server.

    • AnalogyAddict@kbin.social
      1·
      1 year ago

      Yeah, that’s the point I stopped reading because it went totally off the rails. Women have a pretty good handle on what men find attractive. They tell us incessantly. We just don’t care, most of the time, because we are born how we are born, and eat how we eat, and care more about being comfortable in our own skin than with what men think of us.

      I don’t have an issue with men writing it, but I do have an issue with the patronizing attitude, the condescension. These guys still don’t get it, and if they simplified on purpose, they took it too far.