• bobman@unilem.org
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      1 year ago

      Well, I guess the alternative is to keep it illegal and live with what we have now.

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        I like the idea that life sucks so much that meth makes it better and the answer to that isn’t to try to improve lives but to lock people up so life is even fuckin worse.

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          1 year ago

          Making it illegal doesn’t stop people from getting addicted to it.

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            I get what you’re saying, but I completely disagree. Making it a illegal limits the amount of people who try meth, which fundamentally limits how many people get addicted to it.

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              Does it really limit the amount of people who try it?

              Looks to me like people resort to drug abuse when their lives are miserable. Seems like the best way to ‘limit’ the people who abuse drugs is to improve their lives without them.

              Seems like all the money spent enforcing drug laws would be better spent improving society. And it’s a lot of money.

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                I do agree with you, but there’s a group of people who have almost anything we as a society place value on, and yet they still go to meth/other drugs. Sure, the average homeless drug addict on the street fits your description well, but even then there’s some who developed addiction due to medical problems, and only then went to street drugs, and the aforementioned ‘depressed rich kid’.

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                  So… if people are going to do drugs anyways, why make them illegal?

                  Seems like you’re simultaneously saying that drugs should be illegal because it ‘limits the number of people who do them,’ yet there will always be people who do drugs no matter what?

                  Wouldn’t it still make sense to make drugs legal so the resources wasted on enforcing drug laws can be better spent somewhere else? That way we actually reduce the amount of people who resort to drug use out of misery. The people who you say will do drugs ‘no matter what’ are going to be doing them whether they’re illegal or not. So it doesn’t really make sense to make them illegal because we’re not actually reducing the number of users.

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                    I was just adding info to the ‘people only do drugs when they’re down’ part. Personally, I don’t really care. People find new and fun ways to kill each other anyway, why waste resources making something illegal when you could instead collect tax money from it.

                    I’m on the legalise everything side, I just disagree about it only being people down on their luck.

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                Yeah, meth is much much addictive than your average drug.

                People don’t try it because they’re down or miserable.

                And trying it is basically how you get addicted

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                  People don’t try it because they’re down or miserable.

                  Every single meth user I know has done meth at the lowest point in their lives.

                  I’d like to see why you think ‘People don’t try it because they’re down or miserable.’

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                    Every single meth user I know has done meth at the lowest point in their lives.

                    Yes, because Meth is literally the best feeling anyone can ever have. Ever.

                    But people also do Meth at every other point in their life.

                    I know you’re replying in good faith, but I dont think you fully grasp what Meth is actually like.