A senior Ukrainian official says this enabled Russian attacks and accuses him of "committing evil".

Elon Musk says he refused to give Kyiv access to his Starlink communications network over Crimea to avoid complicity in a “major act of war”.

Kyiv had sent an emergency request to activate Starlink to Sevastopol, home to a major Russian navy port, he said.

His comments came after a book alleged he had switched off Starlink to thwart a drone attack on Russian ships.

A senior Ukrainian official says this enabled Russian attacks and accused him of “committing evil”.

Russian naval vessels had since taken part in deadly attacks on civilians, he said.

“By not allowing Ukrainian drones to destroy part of the Russian military (!) fleet via Starlink interference, Elon Musk allowed this fleet to fire Kalibr missiles at Ukrainian cities,” he said.

“Why do some people so desperately want to defend war criminals and their desire to commit murder? And do they now realize that they are committing evil and encouraging evil?” he added.

The row follows the release of a biography of the billionaire by Walter Isaacson which alleges that Mr Musk switched off Ukraine’s access to Starlink because he feared that an ambush of Russia’s naval fleet in Crimea could provoke a nuclear response from the Kremlin.

Ukraine targeted Russian ships in Sevastopol with submarine drones carrying explosives but they lost connection to Starlink and “washed ashore harmlessly”, Mr Isaacson wrote.

Starlink terminals connect to SpaceX satellites in orbit and have been crucial for maintaining internet connectivity and communication in Ukraine as the conflict has disrupted the country infrastructure.

  • PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.worldEnglish
    251·
    1 year ago

    He sold the deal to Ukraine via the pentagon. Ukraine is a US ally, so the pentagon coordinated the sale.

    If anything, this sounds like he lied to both the pentagon and Ukraine about the terms of the deal. Or he reneged on the deal by refusing to give Ukraine access. His argument thus far has basically been “I didn’t want to be implicated” but he sold them to Ukraine specifically for that purpose via the pentagon. So that argument doesn’t really hold water, because he knew what he was selling right from the start.

    My guess is that he’s a Russian asset. Russia has some sort of leverage on Elon, and realized they couldn’t get their ships out to sea before the drone strike happened. So they told Elon to pull the plug to protect their ships.

      • PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        1 year ago

        That’s my bet as well. We know Elon was on Epstein’s island because of the documents that got released. That much is known fact, and pretty indisputable. The issue is what he potentially did (and potentially got filmed doing) on said island. If that footage found its way into Russian hands, I wouldn’t doubt for a second that Elon is being blackmailed by Putin.

    • NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.worldEnglish
      317·
      1 year ago

      So you’re just ignoring the whole part of he didn’t shut it off, it was always off?

      He denied a request to extend it.

      He didn’t turn it off to prevent an immenent attack on Russia.

      Say what you want about their decision to not activate it there, or your opinion on his stance of not wanting to be involved in the war even though it was the most obvious thing ever, but don’t go making shit up.

      EDIT BELOW WITH RESPONSE Walter Isaacson

      https://twitter.com/WalterIsaacson/status/1700342242290901361?s=20

      To clarify on the Starlink issue: the Ukrainians THOUGHT coverage was enabled all the way to Crimea, but it was not. They asked Musk to enable it for their drone sub attack on the Russian fleet. Musk did not enable it, because he thought, probably correctly, that would cause a major war.

      • cerevant@lemm.eeEnglish
        162·
        1 year ago

        So you are saying that the independent, well respected journalist who wrote the Biography is lying, while the demonstrably unethical billionaire is telling the truth?

        • NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.worldEnglish
          2·
          1 year ago

          The independent respected journalist, has now clarified things and it matches what Musk said

          https://twitter.com/WalterIsaacson/status/1700342242290901361?s=20

          To clarify on the Starlink issue: the Ukrainians THOUGHT coverage was enabled all the way to Crimea, but it was not. They asked Musk to enable it for their drone sub attack on the Russian fleet. Musk did not enable it, because he thought, probably correctly, that would cause a major war.

        • NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.worldEnglish
          214·
          1 year ago

          It would be incredibly easy to miss hear something along these lines, so yes, this journalist may have fucked up.

          He’s not denying he didn’t turn it on to protect the fleet.

          You hear some conversation and he’s saying no don’t turn it on, I don’t want them to hit the fleet and escalate the war yadda yadda yadda and that gets misconstrued to he actively turned it off.

          He’s openly admitted in the past that they actively were turning it off on the front lines as well. Crimea wasn’t a front line, so that also jives with it already being off.

          • cerevant@lemm.eeEnglish
            121·
            1 year ago

            So you are saying that he made up the part about the sub drones washing ashore. Got it.

              • Jimbob0i0@lemmy.worldEnglish
                102·
                1 year ago

                So your implication here is that a major military counter strike was predicated on the network being extended just as the drones were headed to their targets?

                That the strike plan was put into action, and then a request was made to extend the network whilst they were already moving and as they were approaching a point of losing contact?

                Does that really make sense to you?

                • NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.worldEnglish
                  2·
                  1 year ago

                  From the biographer matching what Musk said and you’ve all been downvoting me for.

                  https://twitter.com/WalterIsaacson/status/1700342242290901361?s=20

                  To clarify on the Starlink issue: the Ukrainians THOUGHT coverage was enabled all the way to Crimea, but it was not. They asked Musk to enable it for their drone sub attack on the Russian fleet. Musk did not enable it, because he thought, probably correctly, that would cause a major war.

                • NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.worldEnglish
                  38·
                  1 year ago

                  No

                  But Ukraine not knowing it wasn’t enabled in contested zones and then doing the attack and realizing it wasn’t going to work does.

                  To them, that would look like it was turned off when contact was lost. They put in an emergency order and he says he won’t turn it on.

                • NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.worldEnglish
                  29·
                  1 year ago

                  Further to my other reply

                  There’s already past proof that Ukraine didn’t know that starlink would be off at the front lines.

                  So to say there’s no way they wouldn’t know is provably false

                  What very likely happened is an asset told them the ships were docked, they sent them, and shit went sideways.

                  Edit: unless Ukraine comes back and says they successfully sent a recon drone first all the way successfully there’s no reason to believe they’d previously tested it so far, so early. A land asset makes more sense