• SolOrion@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      13·
      10 months ago

      They had a specific point in their designs where literally everything was just a silver tube with wings. SU-7, MiG-19, Su-17, etc.

      Seems like sometime after that they figured out how to make everything look badass.

      • vettnerk@lemmy.mlEnglish
        11·
        10 months ago

        Russian aircraft are like volvo. Suddenly one day the designers decided to use curves. What tubes is to russia, boxes are to Volvo.

        Source: I own a '96 Volvo 940. Ot’s a station wagon, and therefore one of the most aerodynamically challenged vehicles in existence.

      • atlasraven31@lemm.eeEnglish
        7·
        10 months ago

        SU-57 is the best looking sexiest. Its beauty cannot be hidden from an AA radar acreen.

  • Maddison@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    7·
    10 months ago

    people! in all seriousness, does this work. I mean, if they are doing it, it must do something at least?

    • AssPennies@lemmy.world
      English
      11·
      10 months ago

      I got deployed to a spot where a company man came to help out with some logistics. We happened to be using some 50 gallon drums to help anchor down some comms equipment, which got us talking about the topic of 50 gallon drums.

      The company man happened to also be a vietnam vet, and told me a story about some POWs that got captured there. The enemy was real keen on finding out how the americans were finding their ground compounds for aerial attacks.

      These several POWs told the enemy that it was all of their diesel fuel 50 gallon drums that were lighting up on radar, and was giving away their position from dozens of miles away. They went on to tell the enemy that the only way to hide the drums from radar, was to bury them at least 3 feet below ground.

      So there’s the enemy, digging 6+ foot trenches to hide their diesel drums in. Digging trenches like that in the jungle is difficult enough, but even more difficult is then unburying them one by one when the fuel is actually needed.

      So the POWs pulled that whole radar + drums story out of their ass, but knew that if they were believed, it was going to be a huge hindrance for the enemy hiding/accessing the drums like that.

      So I have to wonder: Do the russians believe that throwing tires on their aircraft hides them from radar, or otherwise some other overhead asset from detecting them? It seems like it would be hindrance to scramble those jets when needing to chuck a bunch of tires off it first. Would be hilarious if some type of planted misinformation is responsible for this practice.

      The question still remains though: Does this shit actually work?

      • Maddison@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        1·
        10 months ago

        Would be hilarious if some type of planted misinformation is responsible for this practice.

        interesting! Thank you!

    • atlasraven31@lemm.eeEnglish
      5·
      10 months ago

      Sure, the drone/artillery shell just bounces off. It even protects against Himars bee bees.

      • Maddison@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        5·
        10 months ago

        I mean do they hide the bloody plane? Planes have a very noticeable outline perhaps they are trying to hide it. This way for a drone with low quality cameras, it might not look like a target immediately? And I am thinking these drones have humans sitting behind them and have bad cameras.

        If the drones are programmed almost anything unexpected can put them off course. (Looking at you Million dollar russian missile hitting Ukrainian toilets)

        Thinking the enemy is dumb is almost never a great plan and it certainly doesn’t help you. Luckily for Ukraine, the people who think the enemy is dumb are sitting behind a computer and not inside a command post.

        • atlasraven31@lemm.eeEnglish
          5·
          10 months ago

          Hmmm, what is this pile of tires on the runway? There’s no way it could actually be a plane /s

          Also, the quote “we’re so lucky they are so stupid” is from a Ukranian soldier. There are many battlefield examples.

  • verity_kindle@sh.itjust.worksMEnglish
    3·
    10 months ago

    There’s something so sad about the rutted concrete, the tires and the uncut grass in the image. Wouldn’t a messy airfield give some cover to partisans doing a sneaky thing? Even the very small municipal airport, hair care 'n tire center near me looks better.