• Moonrise2473@feddit.it
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    Also: 30+ years for rape? While rape is a hateful crime, usually people don’t get all that prison time for that.

    That’s what you get when you’re poor, black and homeless?

    The other unjustly accused guy, who was black but not poor and not homeless got much less time and went out of prison twenty years ago

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      And if you’re rich, white and and a student athlete at Stanford you only get 6 months in jail.

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        1 year ago

        Like the convicted rapist Brock Turner, who now goes by Allen Turner, but is still a convicted rapist?

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      He wasn’t imprisoned for 30+ years. He got 7 years and was out after 5. He was, in his own words, ‘locked up in [his mind]’ for 30+ years.

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      Rapists should be locked up for life, not 30 years and definitely not 6 months. Given of course that there’s actual concrete evidence for it.

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        Many murderers murder openly and don’t get any jail time at all. Cause they are elected politicians.

        Other than that - the purpose of the penitentiary system is not to punish people, it’s to redeem them. At least in theory. You don’t have any right to punish other people (well, an eye for an eye may do, if there’s no other way, but that’s the worst that’s acceptable), especially with such intentional destruction as a life sentence.

        So your very approach is criminal intent.

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          Bad news on your rosy world view, but the real reason for our penitentiary system is to create slave labor.

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            There are conversations where the actuality matters, and there are conversations where the criteria matter, and there are also conversations where the dynamic matters. You mixed up this one.

            I mean, everybody talking about someone else’s rosy worldview or otherwise playing a cynic is usually clueless.

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        7 years is a loong time. Where were you 7 years ago? Imagine all the time since then in the same jail cell. Every day, over and over.

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          Yeah, such a long time that i’m sure the victim has forgotten this trauma after 7 years … /s (obviously)

          • vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org
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            You know, one can inflict trauma that won’t be forgotten in 10+ years without any rape. Which wouldn’t be a cause for even a fine, or a day behind bars, or lower social prestige of the person doing it.

            While with rape - I’m all in support of killing attackers in self-defense, it’s justified.

            But if the crime is already done, and if you have them behind bars, and the facts are established, then every hour and every day their personality changes, and becomes further and further from the one that committed that crime.

            And the purpose of the system in theory is not to punish or destroy. It’s to redeem. You are nobody to attempt anything else.

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            Excessive jail times might make you feel good, but provides no value to society. Does not reduce crime rates and is expensive.