With the 2024 presidential race beginning to unfold, Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont said he believes that President Joe Biden will again earn the Democratic nomination — and the president likely win reelection if he runs on a strong progressive campaign.

“I think at this moment … we have got to bring the progressive community together to say, you know what, we’re going to fight for a progressive agenda but we cannot have four more years of Donald Trump in the White House,” Sanders said Sunday on “Face the Nation.”

Sanders endorsed Mr. Biden in April. Sanders referenced several of those issues in underscoring what he believes is the importance of building “a strong progressive agenda” to win the presidency in 2024.

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    But he’s not all that progressive. He never has been. In a sane country, he’d be a middle-of-the-road Republican. There is no progressive left in this country. Not with any real power.

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      I keep seeing this but I’m not sure what you all want …

      • biggest investment in climate infrastructure ever
      • biggest investment in infrastructure since the new deal
      • codified gay marriage into law
      • attempted to forgive $10k in student loan (blocked by republican scotus, still attempting a workaround on interest at least)
      • attempted ban on assault weapons (let’s face it, this will never happen without an act of congress)
      • negotiated drug prices for Medicare (10 drugs so far, a blueprint for more)

      Dude is ticking a ton of boxes. Sure we’re not living in a socialist utopia with universal basic income, etc but it’s been 3 years

      Edit: with a republican congress no less

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        They don’t like Joe Biden because he doesn’t pick losing fights on principle, in general, and because they don’t want to admit that the primary process on the left actually does select for the strongest candidates.

        I get it. I feel the same way at least emotionally. But $1.3 trillion dollars towards climate change and what is almost certainly the most important climate bill ever passed in the world so far is really hard to argue with.

        I would like him to stand up and advocate for court reform. We need to strike while the iron is hot and people are seeing the Supreme Court for the corrupt political institution it always has been. He’s backed down with very little fight on a couple of the things they’ve pulled lately when the Trump Administration would have just kept hammering on passing the exact same laws with tiny changes until they accept it. For example, the opinion on that student loan relief case made this incredibly idiotic argument about how the HEROES Act doesn’t give permission for partial waivers because it only allows a modification or a full waiver and the partial waiver apparently doesn’t count as either of those. I think you should have just come back and said well all right then, full waiver and total jubilee. That probably would also have been struck down but it would have really shown how vapid and hypocritical the court was.

        The word neoliberal has basically lost most meaning. But everything they accuse Joe Biden of being are things that describe Joe Manchin. The guy who singularly keeps killing Progressive legislation put forward by the Biden administration.

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          the primary process on the left actually does select for the strongest candidates.

          Does it tho?

          The 2016 general election was a contest between candidates with historically low favorables It took just 27.2% of eligible voters (in the right places) to put Trump in the White House Clinton underperformed Obama, while Trump over-performed Romney

          If ‘Did not vote’ had been a candidate in the 2016 general, it would have won in a landslide https://brilliantmaps.com/did-not-vote/

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          primary process on the left actually does select for the strongest candidates.

          this seems to imply that the democrat party is left, but it is not.

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          primary process on the left actually does select for the strongest candidates.

          The smugness. Imma vote for Cornel West just to piss you off.

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        He’s also yet to declassify weed even though he carrot on a sticked it leading into the general and then again before primaries. He could do it any time and has not.

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          If Biden were to make any such change to Marijuana scheduling by executive order, the next president would just undo it the same way. Worse still, the GOP would use such a move as a talking point that Biden is soft on crime and trying to get their kids on drugs, which the GOP base would eat up.

          In fact, though, the Biden administration actually is making progress on this front. Some time ago, they requested that U.S. Department of Health and Human Services study whether or not Marijuana should be rescheduled. Just a few days ago, HHS sent their recommendation to the DEA to reschedule marijuana from a Schedule I drug to a Schedule III drug. The DEA has sole authority on drug scheduling.

          “While HHS’s scientific and medical evaluation is binding on DEA, the scheduling recommendation is not,” the HHS spokesperson said. “DEA has the final authority to schedule a drug under the CSA (or transfer a controlled substance between schedules or remove such a drug from scheduling altogether) after considering the relevant statutory and regulatory criteria and HHS’ scientific and medical evaluation. DEA goes through a rulemaking process to schedule, reschedule or deschedule the drug, which includes a period for public comment before DEA finalizes the scheduling action with a final rulemaking.”

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          They love dangling that carrot stick before elections. Only for it to ripped right back election day and tucked away for the next election

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          Good point, forgot that. At least the states (the good ones) have taken on that mantle

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          Tell it to the Midwestern white women.

          The men, too, but let’s be real they’re a lost cause unless Hell freezes over and the Dems nominate someone with a gun collection.

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          Spot on.

          I wasn’t a fan of how Biden quashed the railroad strike, and his response to the Maui wildfire was lackluster.

          I want someone who fights like hell for my interests, not a goddamn third way triangulator.

          No more hugs.

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      There are certain facets to consider here. The nuance I would add is that if he campaigns as a progressive, that will be a more winning platform but they will still just be campaign promises.

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        Then he should do that. Then, if he doesn’t uphold his promises, we can hold his corpse accountable.

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          I would like to live in a world where politicians treat campaign promises as a blood oath, but we do not and cannot live in that world.

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      Pretty sure he lines up well with the neoliberal side of most European parties, which is on the right.

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        If neoliberalism means massive state intervention in investment activities, and putting up trade barriers, then the word has no meaning.

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          Thing is: it really has none that’s if any use globally. A “liberal” in the US is something a liberal form Europe will not recognize as even remotely similar to their own stance and vice versa.

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            I don’t think there is much difference in the use of the word liberal. If I compare the politics of the main liberal party in my home country (VVD in the Netherlands) there isn’t that much difference with the average Democrat in the US. The main difference is whether they are perceived as left or right wing by the population.

            And it very much is neoliberal. Both parties (VVD and Democrats) are in favor of a smaller government and laissez-fair capitalism. They might need to compromise on these principles from time to time to remain popular, and in Europe maybe a bit more.

            Funny thing: right wrong conspiracy nuts get their talking points from the us, so more and more people are starting to call liberals left-wing communists in Europe. So far it’s just by the people who get their talking points online.

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              You’re right. It’s the left/right part they seem to have shifted mostly.

              Although Republican tends to be a leftist thing in monarchies like the Netherlands.

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                Republican means you are in favor of a republic, meaning no monarchy. Communism wants a classless society, so they are republicans as a logical consequence of the ideology. America is a democratic republic, so both Democrats and Republicans are just meaningless labels .