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    Because he’s doing everything to make it fail and destroy the platform, isn’t it obvious?

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      No, you don’t throw away $44 billion just for shit and giggles, not even if you are as rich as Musk. Musk is (probably) a narcissist who thought he could make it work in his delusional mind.

      He wanted a mouthpiece for the MAGA crowd, and he probably thought the desire in the population for it, would make it succeed, if he made the platform embrace that. He probably envisioned himself as a great liberator, who would be celebrated for bringing free speech back to America.

      Musk has been losing it for a long time, and it seems to only get worse.

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        Who could of forseen brands not wanting to advertise over hate speech that would turn off half their customer base? I’d love screenshots of my companies products floating around next to seasticas and racism.

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          Yes that’s so strange, think of all the extra attention the controversies create!! I bet he planned to double the prices for advertising.

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        Also, I don’t think a narcissist would intentionally and publicly humiliate themselves the way Musk has done (Not a psychologist).

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          Absolutely true, being humiliated is just about the worst thing for a narcissist.

          An example of that, was when Elon Musk called the diver who actually rescued 13 children in Thailand a pedophile. Imagine that, calling the hero of the day a pedophile because you are butthurt!!

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          No they definitely don’t like to be humiliated, they probably feel that a lot more deeply that non-narcissists. But at the same time, they lack the self-awareness that would help them avoid getting into situations that would lead to humiliation.

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        I think a lot of “hardware” people underestimate software. Historically, hardware was way more complex but the hardware problems have kind of been solved. There’s only so many ways to design a phone or laptop. Software, meanwhile, has only become more complex and challenging.

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          I agree, but I don’t see the point in this context?

          The software to build and run Twitter, is probably not worth much besides for running Twitter. No Twitter means no value in the software for it either.

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      I truly think this is all his fucking up, nothing else. He was trying to take away features that probably align with the people who gave him money, but had no idea how to make it work and make money and is desperate. Desperation makes you even more stupid.

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        I don’t see the conspiracy.

        My assumption is the investors immediately got what they wanted. They are not stupid.

        Money men don’t hand over money to these front men based on promises. This isn’t a Hollywood movie. There was an immediate pay off.

        They got SpaceX stock.

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          Investors will absolutely hand over money to front men making bad, even obviously insane, promises, though. People are always more easily manipulated than they like to believe, but people who’ve convinced themselves they’re infallible titans of industry are even more vulnerable to it. (Especially the ones who think that they see through the scam and won’t be left holding the bag.)

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          I didn’t say it was a conspiracy. I said they gave him money after he was already fucking up by paying around 30 billion more than it was worth, firing all the people that did stuff, and generally being a bad CEO so he would do what they want. More of a typical business deal really.

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        the only not-on-purpose piece was him having to buy it. idiot was forced to buy twitter, and then turned it into a “lets burn down a bastion of liberal speech” amongst his friends. he knows he wont suffer in any conceivable way, the saudis who fronted a huge chunk get what they want.

        this was all setup shortly after he was forced to buy it. every step he has made since is in the playbook of “ruining your business”, including mistakes he has personally made before.

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      I don’t know. The way it’s going down, it really makes him look like an idiot. He could have just flipped the switch and turned it off as a massive demonstration of power.

      Instead he’s making one mindboggingly stupid decision after another, showing the whole world how utterly incompetent he is.

      The most logical explanation for me is the easiest one: if he’s making stupid and incompetent decisions, maybe he’s just stupid and incompetent.

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        You’re saying the guy that has done nothing but look like a total fool for years could actually be a total fool? By the gods, I think you’re onto something!

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      Because he’s doing everything to make it fail and destroy the platform, isn’t it obvious?

      It is tremendously obvious, I agree. At one point it felt kinda hyperbolic to say, but not for awhile now.

      I’m not knowledgeable enough to be able to speculate what’s in it for him, but it’s 100% obvious that’s what’s being done.

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        He might call him self pro free speech, but he actually hates it (as long as it’s not his own free speech). Getting rid of Twitter is a massive blow to free speech. One less platform where he and his companies can get outed and criticized on.

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          Twitter was becoming another walled platform (not being able to read the content without being logged in) even before Musk’s take-over.

          I’m happy for any walled platform to fail. IMO they have no place on internet.

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          It’s less nefarious than that. He wants to be a championed business leader. He’s just a fuck up who was forced to buy a platform that he never actually intended to buy (except for maybe a couple of days when he first suggested it). Sure, it will help his side when he runs it into the ground, but that’s not his intent despite being the cause.

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      Like others have said, bullshit. He’ll drive it into the ground and pretend that was his plan the whole time, like he’s some undercover genius three steps ahead of everyone, when really he’s just constantly playing catch-up with his narcissistic outbursts.

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      I think that’s obvious to everyone. But, if you’re claiming he’s doing it on purpose… That’s just some next level batshit conspiracy theory.

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        Is it? He’s either a moron or he’s doing it on purpose. There is simply no other explanation.

        At this point it’s just too many dumb decisions, if he had done absolutely nothing after taking over he’d be better off than he is now.

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          Delusional rich guy who’s nowhere near as smart as most people thought he was is the most simple explanation. He’s obviously got some kind of god complex and thinks he’s right about everything.

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            I mean he has been called a real world Tony Stark for the last decade. Maybe that went straight to his mushy brain and he is still on that high. Back in the day he listened to experts, now whenever he’s at SpaceX they employ “Elon handlers” who just nod to every suggestion and then try to get rid of him.

            He got too much positive press and lost it.

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              He looked like a real world Tony Stark when he was surrounded by teams of smart people doing all the hard parts and PR for him.

              What we’re seeing now is pure unfiltered Musk. He was probably always like this, but now he’s off the leash.

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                If you look back at his ‘making us as multi planet species’ era he had a lot of the same traits but since buying Twitter it’s gone off the charts.

                Probably because so many of his big ideas didn’t pan out, when he was talking about Tesla being about the production line not the car I was optimistic but his factories never scaled like they were supposed to, never really got where they needed to be and I think it became clear they weren’t going to get there.

                I think he’s had a lot of ego damage and it’s messed with his head

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              God knows how a wannabe Steve Jobs who bought into all of his companies ever got compared to Tony Stark.

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        Not sure I agree. I think it would be totally in character for him to want to destroy Twitter just because they forced him to buy it. He’s a petty troll and can afford to lose that money just to show them.

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          How does destroying it hurt “them” he already bought it? They cashed out way over the value of the company. If I was any major shareholder of Twitter that he bought out Id be gleefully laughing at him running it into the ground now that I’m no longer invested.

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      That’s like saying “my car may fail after I poured sand into the gas tank and replaced the electrical with speaker wires”

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      That was my original thought when he came on and immediately fired 75% of the staff. It’s not some savvy slimming down or cost-cutting. It was more like a wrecking ball.

      It was fairly clear that his overall desire was the make the platform less useful for liberals and more for conservatives. It seems like he is content to destroy it if he can’t achieve the latter.

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      I keep thinking there must be some high level plan here to destroy twitter for the good of humanity. I mean it’s that or Elon actually just is that stupid. At this point the latter seems the most likely …

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        If he was destroying it for the good of humanity he would have to somehow destroy the concept of it rather than a single platform.

        Probably best spending 40 billion on education in the harm social media can do lol.

        I really do think he’s just delusional. I won’t call him an idiot because there is clearly intelligence and talent in his head, but he’s gone off the rails in some capacity whether it’s mental health issues or power crazed or who knows.

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            You answer jibes with what I have seen plenty of while working with and funding serial entrepreneurs in the Valley: micro-dosing, coke, molly, steroids, random herbal shit, off-label usage of pharmaceuticals, trendy nootropics, blood transfusions, ayahuasca, and Adderall.

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            No he hasn’t. The management of the old x.com (the one that got bought by paypal) threatened to walk if Elon wasn’t removed from the office. He was always this incompetent.

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          That’s my point. In theory Elon realized how toxic it was to public discourse and sought to destroy it.

          If you look at his actions and the actions of a competent person trying to destroy the platform, they are virtually identical

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        You’ve got it back to front imo. Twitter was a useful tool for disseminating info, whether for protest movements, political movements, whatevs. Pre-Musk, there was a degree of control on twitter re disinfo, harassment, hatred etc. Now, it’s no longer a useful tool for leftwing people to gather and share their thoughts; it’s no longer a useful tool to disseminate information; it’s no longer a tool for rallying protestors.

        Look at who invested (Saudi kingdom); look at when Musk took it over (mid-terms); it seems pretty obvious to me that the takeover was a very expensive purchase to make the actions of oligarchs & despots that much easier.

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          Wah, every other platform is a left wing mouthpiece. But you want your cake and to eat it too? Listen to yourself.

          You’re free to “make your own” website. Remember that?

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            you can always go to “truth social” or whatever that crackpot cooker platform is called if you want a safe space

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        What if Elon was encouraged to buy twitter by people who knew he would fuck it up in short order for them?

        If you want to take down a corporation, there’s two main ways right now. Have Elon take charge, or have Ken Griffin short them into the cellar.

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    Sure it’s his money but does anyone else feel legitimately frustrated at all the good that this money could have done?

    Rich dudes have always had vanity projects, but there is no grand concert hall or library or university to come out of this. Just a ruined company with millions of wasted hours of effort. For nothing.

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      Definitely prefer the vanity projects of the past. Libraries, city halls etc

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        Yeah. X makes various things named “Rockafeller” seem downright “not a dumpster fire” in contrast.

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      The nice thing about our economic system is that value is rarely completely destroyed, the money he paid for Twitter didn’t cease to exist, it went to former Twitter shareholders.

      They may be using it in more productive ways than he ever would.

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        They may be using it in more productive ways than he ever would.

        They use it to reinvest and hoard. Because that’s what the investor class does, which is why they’re useless.

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          Just to add a little explanation to those who don’t get it: the man-hours spent by people working for then Twitter now X as well as resources used, uktimatelly for producing no wealth, could’ve instead been spent for something that did produce wealth.

          Same amount of input money either way, but one produces wealth (in the economic sense of the word rather than merelly monetary) and the other just wastes manpower and resources.

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            There has been value generated by Twitter that will outlive it though.

            They established and refined an interface that other ventures like blue sky and mastodon are utilizing, and they delivered open source frameworks like Bootstrap will long outlive Twitter, and have brought value to the broader web development ecosystem.

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              I was just explaning the concept of a “broke window falacy” (funilly enough without using the actual example that gave the name to it) and how work merelly being done is not a gain and can actually be a loss because of the opportunity cost (i.e. the people and the resources could otherwise have been used elsewhere and actually produce something of worth).

              Also I was just thinking about the Musk-era Twitter rather than the entire Twitter timeline.

              As you correctly point out, Bootstrap is something of worth (I would be more hesitant on the “interface” side, as I worked in web interfaces back when they started and that stuff is just derivative and not especially great).

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          Consider whether Twitter was stifling some other growth. If you buy and burn down an advertising billboard, letting light into a market garden–perhaps that is beneficial.

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      millions of wasted hours of effort. For nothing.

      aah, Social Media in a nutshell.

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      Hyperloop, boring tunnels, sending cars to space, etc

      Stop me when you’ve heard enough to believe this guy has obvious disdain for all of us.

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    “Everything was fine with our system until the power grid was shut off by Dickless here.” — Ray Stantz, Twitter engineer

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        He has like 18000 children.

        Plenty of awesome people are dick-free, and being dick-ful in no way suggests competence or any other positive trait.

        Edit: ITT: omg tech bros are so toxic Also ITT: dick measuring

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      It also wasn’t really successful before he came in either. It rarely was profitable and usually operated at a loss.

      I mean Musk has seemingly made every bad move imaginable, I can only imagine the ideas he’s been talked out of.

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        It was losing money, but not much. They could have made some minor changes to make it profitable. However ~8000 people were making good salaries working for them, and tens of thousands of people and businesses benefited from the platform. Now it’s much smaller, less useful, and still not profitable.

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        It was barely profitable but had some one time write offs that pushed it down. It should have returned to barely profitable. But a barely profitable company can become ok profitable with small changes.

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        Twitter’s success wasn’t monetary. The success came in allowing ordinary people their soapbox at a global town square.

        Look at what happened to the price of insulin with a single tweet made back when all the blue checks were in complete free-for-all. A single tweet, made by a random person, thoroughly changed the shape of that one industry. Twitter gave “power” to the people, and those like Musk weren’t comfortable with that.

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        i was no fan of twitter, but it was on a path to achieve some financial stability. It had plenty of value as a mechanism to distribute emergency (or other) information quickly. was and had being the operative words here.

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      If there’s anything left to buy aside from tacky merch shirts. I’m sure the creditors will pick it clean and auction off the best bits to the highest bidder.

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        …I guess it was indeed a disaster because I can’t remember even hearing that name before.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bebo

        originally operated from 2005 until its bankruptcy in 2013

        It was announced in January 2021 that it would be returning as a new social media site the month after. By May 2022, it had once again been shut down, without having ever left beta testing.

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      Bingo.

      And since won’t get back all the staff he dismissed; they’re going to have to just slap the Twitter brand on a Mastodon instance.

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    X may fail. Twitter didn’t fail. Twitter was bought by a twat who decided to shut it down piece by piece.

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      Don’t forget Twitter was already in big problems operating at a loss in a lot of its existing years. It’s definitely plummeting even further with his decisions though.

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    Took over Twitter. Ruined it. Then : “The sad truth is that there are no great ‘social networks’ right now,”.

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      Twitter used to be in much better shape financially before musk took over but implying that it was ever “great” is a bit of a stretch

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      How did he ruin it though? I hear that all the time but I myself haven’t noticed any changes. Well, except for a logo but that’s very minor

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        I myself haven’t noticed any changes

        So you haven’t noticed the 80% reduction in staff leading to incredible amounts of Twitter Downtime, the rise in hate-speech due to the firing of the moderators, the loss of mainstream advertisements, and the replacement with ridiculous low-quality advertising because the mainstream advertisers have grown concerned about the hate-speech?

        And you haven’t noticed the increase in downtime as the website continuously crashes? The loss of the blocking feature? The inability to block Elon Musk specifically? (and how he keeps appearing on everyone’s feed even when you try to get rid of it?). The loss of API access?

        Comment quality and overall quality of discussion has declined significantly on Twitter as well, as Twitter has fallen from top10 on the App/Play store to #55 or later, because it turns out that Americans are too stupid to search for “X” rather than “Twitter”. There has been a precipitous decline in the already crappy quality discussion.

        Finally, Threads and Mastodon have sucked out many high-quality posters and sub-communities.

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          “no, not really” is the answer to all of those, honestly. But I rarely use twitter, hence why I was asking. Just blocked Elon by the way, really curious if what you’re saying about blocking him is true.

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            Cool you barely use twitter and didn’t notice any of the declines detailed above but “no, not really” thanks for the high quality discussion

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              Are we speaking a different language or something? The comment above prefaces all questions "you haven’t noticed " - no I haven’t noticed none of those precisely because I don’t use twitter much. What’s the discrepancy here?

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                You asked how elon ruined the experience, someone explained it to you, you then said you don’t even use the platform and hadn’t noticed any of that. Like. Why did you ask in the first place and why are you dismissing the fairly detailed and accurate answer you got?

                Edit: I’ll leave my response but I think you’re actually just curious from the perspective of someone who doesn’t use twitter a lot. I think I knee jerk reacted as though you were trying to defend musk as his fans are fairly obnoxious. Having reread this whole conversation, I think I’m coming off more aggressive than I should be.

                Anyway, yeah you’re right you probably wouldn’t have noticed the negative changes musk has brought about. As a former daily user of twitter I’m fairly angry at the destruction of the site. I think twitter was an extremely important venue, it gave regular people direct access to interaction with the rich and powerful, it gave access to unfiltered news from on the ground people and it allowed people from remote/poorer parts of the world a way to interact with the west. Losing that in the society we live in is a real bummer.

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        For a product the logo and brand recognition are not minor. Twitter was so well known and ubiquitous that the word “tweet” was included in dictonaries around the world. He threw that away and replaced it with a generic X, and no one can figure out how to call posts on that platform now.

        But other than that, he has a very particular stance on moderation and free speech. He thinks hateful comments are just fine, as long as they aren’t strictly against the law. But he also doesn’t apply the same standards to himself, removing stuff he doesn’t like even though it would be ok according to his own rules. He also gutted the Twitter/X staff, particularly the tech departements, leading to numerous outages and technical problems. All this has made it an even worse platform for civil public discourse, and it wasn’t all that great before he took over imo.

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          Thanks for the explanation. For me none of that, well, except for content moderation, really matters. I just didn’t understand why people blame Elon when the platform has already been overrun by bots way before he took over. Whenever I look at it, It’s all crypto and political spam. Who cares what logo looks like, or how many people work on it, when there’s no good content to begin with?

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            You’re being extremely disingenuous. Those things exist on that platform and every other social media platform. If that’s literally all you’re seeing, you are not using it right… in fact you have to be going pretty far out of your way to make that the entirety of the content shown to you. It wasn’t hard at all to find quality posters and filter out the bullshit.

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              Right now, I opened twitter, and out of 16 trending topics, 7 are crypto spam, 3 are political spam, 2 are just spam, 2 are generic words, and the remaining two I have zero interested in. Today I also got a “trending tweet” notification that was in some foreign language I don’t know. Went on a homepage and every third post is some kind of spam, so I had to block like a couple dozen accounts just so they never pop up again. I have no idea how you are supposed to find good creators when spammers are gaming the system so easily. And it’s been like that for a few years already. No other social network has this problem, I would’ve quit internet if that was the case.

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                Right now? Probably. Musk has super-fucked it and I won’t have anything to do with the guy or his projects. You argued it’s always been this way, though. It was not if you took a moment to use it correctly and follow people you like and ignore those you don’t. I give my friends shit (jokingly) for using “X” and the answer is the same “It’s the best way to keep tabs on my favorite creators.”

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            Think about this. Staff soon may not have a place to work if they don’t work from home. Musk hasn’t been paying vendors or rent on Twitter offices for some time now. His failure to pay server costs caused outages and a scramble from what staff remained to move that info off google servers he didn’t want to pay for and onto servers he owns. This kind of thing may not effect all users on a daily basis, but imagine if your landlord just decided not to pay the utilities bill out of your rent. Eventually the city or municipality would shut off the electric or water. You can’t have a domicile that doesn’t have electric and water. The place would be condemned and all renters would be out of their homes. That’s basically a very similar scenario to what’s happening at Twitter.

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        The “blue check” system which was previously used to denote verified users were who they claimed to be suddenly became a complete cash grab for $8 a month, even more for companies to have verified checks or sets of them? Then when not everyone was buying in those users were pushed to the top of replies to users posts. This of course caused tons of people to just get blocked outright because of their checks.

        Additionally i believe he has threatened to remove some companies handles because they stopped using them most notably NPR.

        Now he has floated the idea of removing the blocking feature because reasons? Who knows what he thinks. So the functionality has not changed a ton, for now, the quality of what you get has gone down.

        Oh also he made a specific exception and unbanned some user who posted literal child porn

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          He likely saw a report that showed he was the most blocked user, so he got sads

          Also, his bluetlicker losers likely see the “you can’t see this because you are blocked” message everywhere they went and they complained

          Now they’ll just be “muted” and not know people shut off their loser ass

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        If you don’t notice the changes, you were part of the people he bumped up at all costs that turned it into a terrible service

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          Well, maybe, but then it’s a terrible bid, because I only use twitter to shit on brands. And I’m definitely not buying the check mark.

          EDIT: accidentally removed “not”

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            This is the one thing I am going to miss more than anything: Twitter worked for resolving issues with companies. It was the single good thing about it. Now that is going away, companies can ignore you.

            Seriously I have been on the phone, email, on hold, trying to get things resolved. One tweet and suddenly I am important and they want to help. A lot of companies have different support teams to monitor social media and that is where shit gets done.

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            And I’m definitely buying the check mark.

            So you want to show to the world that you’re a mindless Pro-Elon Musk simp?

            The blue checkmark is a death upon your online reputation. That’s why you’re allowed to hide the blue-check these days, because the internet has begun to realize that you LOSE reputation by buying that checkmark.

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        He had to inject his own persona into the platform by making inflammatory, discriminatory tweets and being a general troll on his platform, and then making unpopular decisions like forcing people to pay for a blue checkmark, increasing API costs, not banning Nazi posters, and of course, the nonsensical rebranding. It drove away people and advertisers who didn’t want to be on the same platform as literal Nazis and bigoted TERF people, and companies who couldn’t afford the ridiculous API pricing.

        Honestly if he had simply not used his own platform as his own bullhorn, he could have enacted some of the more unpopular changes to become profitable.

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    Oopsie we repeatedly keep taking away you most valuable organizational tools

    • The 1%
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      This take is exhausting. It’s like the political version of narcissism: here’s how everything that happens in the world is actually a conspiracy against me!

      If Musk was a plant to sabotage Twitter on the behalf of the 1%, why would he have done it slowly with a series of increasingly bad decisions that caused a mass migration to distributed open-source platforms? Why not just flip the switch and kill it in one go? Or: why not start a program of bots to talk about how awesome Teslas are, and make Trump seem cool, while shadow-censoring criticism of Musk’s friend’s companies or governments?

      You think They are competent and dastardly enough to plan a takeover of Twitter, but then too bumbling to make better use of it than slowly discrediting it with a series of half-baked ideas from a deranged and detestable front man?

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        Control is the game for people with money and power whether it is graceful or not. Some of what Elon has done seems like he wants to control the narrative around his jet. Some of what Elon is doing seems like he just wants to keep testing the waters to see how many people still use twitter after crippling the system. Like some sort of “I slap them in the face and they ask to be hit harder- that’s how much power I have over them. People are obsessed with me”.

        I don’t think his goal was to kill twitter. His goal was to remain on everyone’s lips without his jet being mentioned. And if that’s at the cost of organizational tools being destroyed, so be it- in fact, destroying twitter has had more people taking about him than ever.

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          Yeah, I think that’s more or less right. Musk has gone off the rails, and is using his fortune as a cudgel in a fit of pique.

          It’s our own fault that our “town square” was so easily taken over by a rich bully, though. I was warning people back in 2007 that depending so heavily on Google, Facebook, Twitter, etc, was a bad idea. People did not want to hear it. It’s hard to picture now, but people used to love those companies, and couldn’t imagine them doing harm. But like…it was inevitable.

          We need to build on things like Lemmy, Mastodon, Diaspora, whatever. If you hand control of the town square to a corporation, they’re gonna control access and charge fees, and they’ll happily sell it to someone who wants to turn it into a mud-wrestling pit. That’s not the fault of the corporations–it’s our fault.

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        Not to mention that the 1% already owned it.

        Though if anyone is thinking of spending close to fifty billion to destoy a social network then call me - I’ll do it for a billion, or two.

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      For real!? I cannot think of a worse cancer than twitter/X and the horrific abomination that it is cannot whither away quickly enough.

      What possible benefit has Twitter ever offered mankind?

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    X? Can we collectively decide to forever call it “X, formerly known as Twitter” just to piss him off?

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    Best part was he tried to chicken out of his own deal but the feds obv wouldn’t allow him back off on his very own proposal to buy Twitter in the first place!

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    So with wildfires in Canada there’s evacuation zones near me, but I can’t click on some announcement links from the main site that shows the evacuation zones because they go to twitter and you need to log in now. I think they show some on other pages on the site but they do the quicklink to the twitter announcement in the sidebar so you have to click around a bit to get to it. Yes I know the name but whatever. My point being is when the social media site that was meant for short bits of info isn’t good for emergency notifications where everyone can read, it’s shitty and potentially harmful.

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      Governments should either be operating their own systems for this or, hell I don’t know, why not just spin up a their ready-to-go Mastodon instance or something else in the fediverse not subject to the delirious whims of a petulant muskrat born with daddy’s money?

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      I’m sorry - as someone who has done some work with disaster response, this was one of my main concerns. When they threatened to take away NWS access to API without huge fees, I was honestly horrified. Thankfully they reversed that decision, but a lot of what my organization did was scour Twitter for official information and also personal accounts of folks who needed help/the conditions on the ground.

      It is honestly a travesty that a resource such as this can be reduced to literal 💩 when people need it the most. I wish I had an answer, but I don’t. I hope more and more folks/orgs migrate to a suitable alternative(s) sooner rather than later, but the damage has been done. There’s always a percentage who never do, and you can’t fix that.

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    genuinely convinced he may have intentionally destroyed twitter to make the next presidential campaign operate on a different field.

    sounds crazy but without twitter or reddit, how do “the youth” communicate? tiktok? insta?

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      There’s no reason to speculate his motives. It’s obvious he didn’t want to buy Twitter when he was forced by courts to buy it. He was being an idiot trying to manipulate the stock price. I know it’s hard to believe a multi-billionaire can be an idiot, but it happened. There’s no 4d chess move. Rich people are fallible as everyone else.

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      Big parts of the youth did not use twitter. Twitter had at its peak about 500mio active users. Instagram has 2.4 billion, tiktok 1 billion, snapchat 750mio. The relevancy of twitter is highly skewed, because the media used it a lot.

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        It wasn’t worth that much when he bought it. At most, it was worth half that. One of the many reasons why Musk is a fucking moron.

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          It doesn’t help making an offer that was too high just so he could make a silly “420” joke.

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      I’d say that’s stupid, but so is every other idea he comes up with for it so who knows.