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I installed Plex a couple years ago and when I found I actually had to sign into their servers to access my own content it was immediately uninstalled. It was only a matter of time before they pulled this kind of shit.
No love for Emby here?
I have a lifetime membership to Emby premium. I just switched to Jellyfin. Emby is kind of dead in the water as far as development. Not abandoned but not really forging ahead. And it doesn’t have as much community plug-in support. If you like the features as they are, it’s a good platform. I got enough years out of my premium payment to not fully regret it, but I’m not going to let it anchor me to a stale feature set. I don’t need the support and I can always fall back to it if I have to.
Deceptive title. If the person hosting the server has Plex pass then it’s still free for other users to use remote playback.
How is it deceptive? No plex pass on the server? No remote streaming.
Jellyfin is free. Your own domain is like $10 a year or less.
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No you don’t. I’ve shared with people and I’ve never had a pass.
https://jellyfin.org/ Great alternative to Plex!
Wish they had a client for PS5.
I paid for a lifetime Plex Pass years and years ago now, I’ve definitely gotten my money’s worth.
That being said, I fully expect more bullshit like this, up to and including ending my “lifetime” pass.
When that comes to pass, I’m so glad Jellyfin will be available for me to use.
“We regret to inform you that your Lifetime Pass has died in a restructuring related accident. Consider easing your loss by browsing our other pass options.”
I also paid for a lifetime pass and still switched to Jellyfin last year. I find it’s quite a bit better than Plex. The UI leaves a bit to be desired, but the performance for me is way better.
I’d suggest giving it a try
Lifetime pass for Plex too. A few months ago, it bubbled up an ad-filled version of a show I was watching in front of the show on my server. That is, it showed up in Continue Watching. I was briefly baffled when I started watching an ad on a show that I thought was streaming locally.
Anyway, I switched to Jellyfin. There’s some imperfections, but so far it hasn’t tried to trick me into watching ads.
Does Jellyfin have remote play? I’ve had a lifetime PP for years now, but most of my users don’t. I will be installing Jellyfin tomorrow to run parallel until it can be a full replacement, or just forever.
I just was asking someone on here a few weeks back if switching off Plex while already having a PP was worth it. I think the gist was no rush since it’s working, but this news is my canary.
You have to set it up yourself. It does not have remote access through someone else’s servers like Emby and Plex do.
As long as you have PP, users streaming remotely from your server can do so without PP (or the mobile app unlock). The client user charge is only for accessing servers that don’t have PP. Still insane they’re charging anything at all for streaming private content from a private server to a private client though.
Thank god for jellyfin. I have a feeling plex would have gone a lot harder with this update if there was no competition.
I missed that part of the article and had a user point it out. Still really dumb of Plex to charge more for something that has little overhead for them, greedy assholes.
This is my experience too. The web interface is usable, but a bit rough. It is a lot like early Plex web UI. The options for clients are okay on Android / Google TV but they are kinda bad on Apple TV.
Hopefully as more people discover Jellyfin interest in development of both the server and the clients will surpass Plex.
I appreciate what Plex has offered for free for many years now, and I was once a subscriber, but I don’t love it anymore because I’m looking for the straightest path to watching my library on my devices. Jellyfin delivers this better most of the time.
I see Jellyfin suggested as an alternative to Plex here. I hope it is one day.
At the moment it’s nowhere close.
I’ve been running Jellyfin side-by-side Plex for two years and it’s still not a viable replacement for anyone but me. Parents, my partner, none of the possible solutions for them come anywhere near close to the usability of Plex and its ecosystem of apps for various devices.
That will likely change because plex is getting worse every day and folks can contribute their own solutions to the playback issues. With plex it’s more noise, more useless features. So one gets better (Jellyfin) and one gets worse (Plex).
But at the moment it really isn’t close for most folks who are familiar with the slickness of commercial apps.
Even from the administrative side, Jellyfin takes massively more system resources and it doesn’t reliably work with all my files.
Again, Jellyfin will get there it’s just not a drop in replacement for most folks yet.
And for context I started my DIY streaming / hosting life with a first gen Apple TV (pretty much a Mac mini with component video outs) that eventually got XBMC and then Boxee installed on it. I even have the forksaken Boxee box.
I mean, that’s like, your opinion man… I prefer Jellyfin.
But that’s exactly my point - we here in this bubble prefer Jellyfin - but it’s not ready for mass adoption. Even plex is a drop in the bucket.
jellyfin > plex
Sure. Except in the ways it isn’t.
I’m not trying to be a dick, but in what ways is Jellyfin vastly inferior to Plex? I haven’t used Plex before but Jellyfin does everything me and my family need from a streaming service.
Was trying to get a friend to switch to jellyfin the other day and it turns out he’s got a weird Hisense projector that uses VIDAA OS, which does not have a jellyfin app, but DOES have a Plex app. I imagine setups like this are probably limiting Jellyfin’s adoption. VIDAA is actually less niche than I thought as well, heaps of cheap-ish TVs and projectors are running it.
Todays word of the day is…Enshitification!
… with 3 Ts
That’s the word of this decade.
This might be a good time to remind everyone that Jellyfin is open source, free (as in beer) and is, at this point, a better media streamer than Plex. No fees, no ads, no constant pushing of their streaming content, and still has the watch together feature that Plex went and removed.
free (as in beer)
wut
There are 2 types of “free”. Liberty, and price. “Free as in beer” means they mean the price version of the word. It’s a really old saying now.
TBH Plex is years ahead on maturity, their dev team is excellent, unfortunately it seems like enshittification has begun for them.
Support Jellyfin not because it’s better, but because it’s open source and it puts users and tech first. Don’t expect it to beat Plex’s performance, quality, or cross-platform availability yet, but expect it to become better as more people donate or get involved.
What’s better, exactly?
I switched years ago from Plex to Jellyfin, and while the UI wasn’t quite as nice, everything else is better.
And I don’t have to pay to use HW transcoding on my own hardware…Plexamp. Genuinely my favorite audio player since Winamp.
There’s ‘finamp’ for jellyfin which I really like so far.
I haven’t used plexamp though, so I can’t vouch for it as an alternative.
For Android users there’s Symfonium which I find really great
Honestly, I don’t really understand how people prefer the Plex UI to Jellyfin. No shade, it just doesn’t make sense to me. Plex is incredibly cluttered and busy. Jellyfin is simple and clean. I like the latter a lot more.
Jellyfin looks pretty bad on an iPad. Subtitles setting keep getting reset on their own, it doesn’t understand basic keyboard controls (spacebar to pause), the UI is overall tiny. Oftentimes it will forget to save the spot where I finished watching and on the next launch will happily play the movie from beginning.
Was this with the first party Jellyfin app or with Swiftfin?
If it was with the first party app, I’d definitely recommend giving Swiftfin a try.
The reason I’m not switching yet, is that there’s no federated auth. If they had that, I’d switch in a heartbeat.
Simple auth was honestly one of the upsides for me.
Plex claims to have an offline mode, but I could never got it to work, for some reason.
And I got pissed off one too many times when my Internet went down and I couldn’t watch anything from the NAS a few meters away…I think that happened to me just once in the last 15? years, but that’s where the ole’ USB drive from the drawer got its chance to relive its glory days!
Same here. I have it installed, but I’m resistant to managing other people’s passwords.
The only thing Plex has on Jellyfin are client apps. Sever-side… Jellyfin hands down. I was super surprised to see av1 transcoding support… In Plex we JUST got HEVC.
I’m not hating on Plex by any means, but when I have an issue with Plex, Jellyfin picks up the slack. I’ll be using Jellyfin full time after the ATV app re-write.
I am curious, though, what is it that makes you think Jellyfin’s software is inferior? Since I’ve been following, Jellyfin has released new features long before Plex.
Plexamp is phenomenal. To my knowledge, Jellyfin doesn’t have anything remotely comparable.
I need client side apps and easily sharing libraries with remote friends. Both are pretty hard to give up and not quite there yet.
LDAP can be used, which isn’t bad. There are plenty of options. It’ll never be as easy as letting a 3rd party handle it for you. But, that’s a pro in my book.
I agree the client side apps are taking some time, but the developers are absolute gems.
Jellyfin has native apps for Android, Android TV and iOS.
Does Plex offer native apps (that aren’t just stripped down browsers) for more platforms?
Not sure whether they are stripped browser versions, but I can use plex on ps4, xbox. I use my ps4 for all my streaming so jellyfin not being in there means more annoyance for me. I have Jellyfin setup side by side with plex, accessing the same content and Plex displays it all properly while jellyfish does funky shit like displaying multiple entries for a single show (it had nearly 50 entries until I manually reworked a ton of filename shit), or fucking up and showing box art and a title for a porn movie instead of the actual movie which was Princess Mononoke. There may be settings that help with this buried somewhere but for now it’s definitely more of a pain to use.
Atm Xbox is my most reliable media player. PlayStation isn’t quite there, but would be a nice to have. My parents aren’t very tech literate and they use their smart TV/cable box. I have a friend with an older Roku/smart stick that’s incompatible. Have they added an app for Apple TV yet?
There is an app, but it’s not receiving updates at the moment. They’re doing a complete re-write. The iOS app has been released, and it’s fantastic. The Infuse app is a great band-aid for the time being.
I cannot upvote this enough. “Just migrate to X, it’s every bit as good!” when end users know it’s not is a disingenuous argument and even if they don’t have the technical know-how to explain exactly why they feel this way, they’ll feel the deception. It only reinforces a growing distrust in tech.
The argument has to be made honestly. It’s not quite as good, but almost. Those few things you’ll miss will require an adjustment, but the overall value (a lot of times just literally, it costs less!) will become evident.
I know we’re all Linux nerds here and enthused to get people onboard, but the battle right now we’re facing is one of trust and security and must be grounded in those notions because while great strides have been made in convenience and accessibility, big corps will always be able to bankroll themselves over those points.
Its weird how people complain more with the current state of plex compared to if they just required a plex pass for everything.
My ONLY complaints are that they have new features enabled by default, and that it doesn’t work well if the internet breaks
How else would they continue developing their social features that no one fucking asked for?
Meanwhile they remove the social features that people DO like and use like watch together
People gotta justify their jobs!
There’s enough work without them going all social.
I paid for a lifetime membership to Plex in 2012–$75. I stopped using it around 2015, mostly because I hated that I didn’t have access to software running on my server, meant to serve my media, without an internet connection. I knew that meant worse was coming in the future.
I don’t regret switching to Jellyfin.
You can access locally when the internet is down. You just need to set the login bypass for the local network. IMO it’s kinda a stupid step needed in setup but it is available.
I run jellyfin in a container and it is amazing. Give it a try.
I’m not sure I understand the need for charging to play media on a private server when not on the local network. Why is this no longer going to be free? I’m glad I bought a lifetime pass many many years back but I definitely wouldn’t pay for Plex nowadays with alternatives being comparable. What a silly choice they made~
I’m not defending them because it’s a shit move, but they clearly understand the most valuable feature is not their ad-ridden free content but rather the original value prop of the service to make it easy to share personal media with small groups of friends.
It reeks of “we’re routing your traffic through our own servers to check your media for piracy” to me.
Why would they check for piracy when it’s not them you’re pirating from and stopping piracy would remove the most popular use case of their product?
They do have a proxy service, but it is optional. I have it disabled because my server is faster.
I could see the proxy slipping behind a paywall as that feature has costs, but web accessibility? That’s basic function of a video server.
The proxy service is also encrypted end to end
Edit: this relies on the Plex system being secure/nice though.
It increases on April 29th, so if you still want to buy a lifetime pass at the current rate, you have until then.
These seem like reasonable changes
They are updating the app at some point, which is removing the watch together feature. I wonder what else may disappear.
