Do we want them to participate in the planning. Before you know it they sell the plans (and everything else) to Putin. I think it is time we start to treat them as a untrustworthy nation.
Just for anyone who still holds out hope: NATO as we have known it is over. The US won’t come to the defense of the other members if they are attacked. It’s time to move on.
They’re not just not coming to the defence, they’re mobilizing for war. It’s very clear.
This was Putin’s goal. Destabilize NATO. Crumbling US alliances is just the cherry on top.
We are losing long friends and close allies.
All because a plurality of voters want to feel powerful.
Even if it’s for a brief moment.
Then we should stop allowing them using Rammstein as a Hub to meddle in Middle East and Africa.
No cherrypicking
How quickly can that infrastructure be moved to Hungary?
Depends what you mean? The dedicated pipelines and other stuff probably not very fast. Everything that is not bolted down, probably quite fast.
But I don’t know if China and Putler appreciate a big US Base there.
Putler would love it. He knows he can call on the seppos now.
Yes, but if a sane candidate gets reelected (fingers crossed) he has a big US Base near the Ukrainian (or hopefully not Russian) Border. That would be a huge own goal
What election?
Well let’s hope for the best case that there will be one, when his 4 years are over
Pápa is a US military airbase, I’m sure they can expand it for the US for thrice the money it should cost over the course of a few decades.
Super Geniuses At Work.
Very cool, very stable.
Are they plannimg on closing bases too?
It seems ever less likely the US will participate in the NATO summit in The Hague. Too bad for Mark, though people living and working there will probably not mind.
Pretty sure that if a US military person crosses the threshold of the Hague they catch on fire
Heard King WA is going to throw a fancy dinner for the NATO leaders, so Donny might be interested to attend.
Does he know the Netherlands have a king? I doubt he cares about any monarch other than Charles maybe.
I think he is susceptible to all things pompous, so he might be interested. I think he knows the Netherlands have a royal house, i can remember Rutte being over at the white house in his first term and he thought the name " the kingdom of the Netherlands" was really great. But who knows!
Looking more and more likely to see US folks in the Hague for vastly different reasons in the future…
what even is their goal? just yet i refuse to believe there is none and that theyre just dumb, because theyre obviously not.
america first for every price? but would it not be better to trade with us and have us as allies versus china and russia? we would spend our money and work together so its all more efficient.
It has nothing to do with “America First”, if so then dismantling the entire US superpower hegemony and its alliances would be a contraproductive move.
This has everything to do with “Russia First”.
The goal is to turn USA into a puppet state for Russia. Trump is going to try to cancel elections and ultimately Americans will be drafted to fight for Russia. Assuming trump has his way.
They don’t need to be drafted for Russia, they’ll just be deployed alongside/on the western front.
The voters are stupid, all they see is “america first fuck yeah!” They don’t understand or care about the consequences
Had a nice long chat with a customer at work about what all she’s growing, how she’s doing it. Talked about cars and what her and my wife drive, how well they worked out. Very pleasant.
As she was breaking off the conversation she said, “And we’re taking America back! Isn’t that great! We’re taking it back!”
I had no idea how to reply, strange for me. Taking what back from who and how and what the fuck does that even mean?
Yes. They’re that dumb and they’ll keep being dumb until the consequences hit them in the face. Personally.
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In what universe are MAGA less censorious? Have you looked at their subreddit? they LOVE censorship.
Just because the left tells you to stop being an asshole to minorities that doesn’t mean censorship. It means you should stop being an asshole to minorities.
Lemmy is the most censor happy media I’ve ever engaged in. Sure, we can cherry pick subs like /r/conservative, /r/latestagecapitalism, /r/pyongyang, etc., but my overall experience with lemmy has proven quite the echo chamber.
Look at our (dead) /c/conservative comm. Nothing much crazy there, certainly nothing hateful or bigoted. Blasted into the sun. Hell, there were many articles and posts that deserved thought and comment. Nope. Straight into the sun. Even a brand new post, with no politics in the headline, downvoted at birth. I swear there were people patrolling and downvoting every item they saw.
But no, lemmy’s too smart to fall for that horseshit! For those that agree, let me point you to an old friend of mine:
“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”
― Sun Tzu, The Art of War
That’s the most famous line, but y’all should read the whole book. Short as can be, yet packed with wisdom as to how to fight, and mostly, how avoid fighting and still win.
Tellingly, the last and most important chapter is “The Use of Spies”. But you guys are too smart to listen to the other side, let alone spy on them. Keep winning?
Spending time reading, and arguing, with idiots online is a complete waste of time and energy.
Why am I doing it at the moment? Laid up with a bad back. Literally can’t do anything else.
Your account of censorship densities means very little to me. You are an enemy asset who doesn’t realize that “ya’ll” immediately makes me tune out the bulk of what you said. As in, I’m not even going to skim any more of it.
elon is maga and on x everyone can post all the stuff they want. i tried it myself by posting far right and far left things, none was deleted, expect hate. on bluesky and reddit they deleted the far left stuff.
Cisgender.
Everything except when it comes to stuff contrary to their world view.
No, Kamala Harris program was better than Trump’s. By a wide margin
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Democrats have tried addressing the border. Republicans refused to go along. Do you know why? Because they want the border as an election issue. So it never got done.
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Biden arrested more illegals than Trump.
But Trump knows that if a lie gets repeated enough it will become truth.
If by less censorious you mean they’re openly fascist, I guess
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It’s just history. That’s all we’re seeing. This shit unfolds over and over again, just to a slightly different tune.
Nah. There probably isn’t a single GOP fascist out there, at least to their own minds. They’re just going with what makes sense, gets them power. Unfortunately we’re at a time where fascism is what gets them power.
I strongly disagree. They are actually very dumb and there is no grand strategy at play here. While everyone tries to understand the sense behind the erratic decisions, there really is not much to understand at all. It’s as simple as “we don’t want to spend money on European defense anymore”, so all activities related to that are stopped, without any regard to the consequences.
They don’t need to be particularly smart, each to each, in order to both want to and be capable of annexing somewhere.
This works out well because its likely best we have no intel on it.
