Trump, Zelenskyy and the Europeans are desperately trying to deliver the bitter truth to the public and evade blame.
  • humanspiral@lemmy.caOPMEnglish
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    2 days ago

    And still, why did he attack Georgia?

    Same story of CIA puppetry causing a separatist movement. Ukrainian nazi got power in Georgia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikheil_Saakashvili

    He shit disturbed country enough to create secessionist movement that Russia chose to defend.

    Russia always just talked about a training - until they actually invaded.

    Dead wrong. They were serious about red lines.

    How should we deal with someone who constantly breaks his word?

    You have to distinguish between Ukrainian nazi BS accusations of breaking his word, and facts. Facts require looking at world from all sides.

    • naeapEnglish
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      2 days ago

      So, poor Russia always got tricked into needing to invade foreign sovereign states, to save the people there and itself with it?

      Oh come on…
      I don’t believe in fairy tales

      Edit: and so Europes defense plans are a threat against Russia as well?
      https://www.politico.eu/article/russia-vladimir-putin-eu-defense-plans-kremlin-retaliatory-measures/
      So, we must not prepare to possibly defend ourselves, because else we will get attacked?
      And if not, well then we’re easier to take over…

      Great logic here

      • humanspiral@lemmy.caOPMEnglish
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        2 days ago

        picking a side in civil war is also what they did in Afghanistan. US puppeteering civil wars in ex CIS states is something you should focus on more.

        • naeapEnglish
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          2 days ago

          I’m not picking a side

          I’m saying that Russias politics are full of shit, just like the US counterparts.
          Just don’t paint the Russian aggression as a happy liberation thing, while they kill thousands of people.
          Same shit the USA does with their “democracy” the bring to 3rd world countries.

          So, if you want to blame the USA for their shit, you can’t just say, that Russia is just happily trying to survive. They’re doing the exact same shit

          Imperialism is imperialism.

          Edit: maybe you missed my update to my last answer, so here again:

          and so Europes defense plans are a threat against Russia as well?
          https://www.politico.eu/article/russia-vladimir-putin-eu-defense-plans-kremlin-retaliatory-measures/
          So, we must not prepare to possibly defend ourselves, because else we will get attacked?
          And if not, well then we’re easier to take over…

          Great logic here