And all the Russian attacks (including cyber attack, and political and social manipulation) before the invasion were justified?
I don’t like to put the blame on the victim…
They are 100% a propaganda bot/Russian bootlicker/Russian. No matter what proof you find, they will claim it was justified and Russia was only defending itself
EndlessWar is Russian propaganda. It was Russian propaganda on Reddit, and it’s Russian propaganda here.
Edit: sorry you’re the same person I already told this. My bad. I just really hate this guy and I hate that I was recommended this community so quickly joining lemmy lmao. Propaganda everywhere. You won’t catch me in here much, I can’t fight an entire community of bad actors. Not gonna be good for my mental health.
I still want to understand their perspective, because it always uses some emotional reasons for an excuse of a Russian invasion, where they killed and raped all the people, they originally wanted to save.
Something doesn’t add up here and I just don’t understand, how they can still defend Russia for their crimes. So, my thinking is, that maybe I don’t have the full picture as well and I would like to see, if I’m really missing something
(including cyber attack, and political and social manipulation) before the invasion were justified?
Completely separate issue. Hating Russia has such consequences. Thinking that war on Russia will make it stop interfering in your politics is silly. And by far the worst offender in foreign interference is US. It is at an absurd level where its evil is dogma, and anti-evil is foreign disinformation.
Categorically, Russia was exercising self defense, and just because the aggressor is the loser does not make it the victim.
There seems to be a pattern with Georgia, Crimea and now Ukraine as a whole.
There is an in between between full alignment with Russia as the only trade partner, and having US select nazis to exterminate the Russian population in those countries and welcome nuclear missile bases. The US colonial alignment on Russia’s borders will get you destroyed as completely deserved, and exactly what US wanted.
And all the Russian attacks (including cyber attack, and political and social manipulation) before the invasion were justified?
I don’t like to put the blame on the victim…
They are 100% a propaganda bot/Russian bootlicker/Russian. No matter what proof you find, they will claim it was justified and Russia was only defending itself
EndlessWar is Russian propaganda. It was Russian propaganda on Reddit, and it’s Russian propaganda here.
Edit: sorry you’re the same person I already told this. My bad. I just really hate this guy and I hate that I was recommended this community so quickly joining lemmy lmao. Propaganda everywhere. You won’t catch me in here much, I can’t fight an entire community of bad actors. Not gonna be good for my mental health.
No problem, thanks for input :-)
I still want to understand their perspective, because it always uses some emotional reasons for an excuse of a Russian invasion, where they killed and raped all the people, they originally wanted to save.
Something doesn’t add up here and I just don’t understand, how they can still defend Russia for their crimes. So, my thinking is, that maybe I don’t have the full picture as well and I would like to see, if I’m really missing something
Doesn’t really seem so though…
Completely separate issue. Hating Russia has such consequences. Thinking that war on Russia will make it stop interfering in your politics is silly. And by far the worst offender in foreign interference is US. It is at an absurd level where its evil is dogma, and anti-evil is foreign disinformation.
Categorically, Russia was exercising self defense, and just because the aggressor is the loser does not make it the victim.
So, what’s the alternative?
Just let Russia have whatever they want?
There seems to be a pattern with Georgia, Crimea and now Ukraine as a whole.
It can’t be, that if I’m not aligned with their political agenda, I’m automatically a legitimate target for war.
There is an in between between full alignment with Russia as the only trade partner, and having US select nazis to exterminate the Russian population in those countries and welcome nuclear missile bases. The US colonial alignment on Russia’s borders will get you destroyed as completely deserved, and exactly what US wanted.
If it would have been only for the said suppression of Russian people in the east of Ukraine, why did they roll for Kiew from the start?
Seems more than fishy to me.
And they bombed, raped and killed their “own” people in the east as well.
So seeing Russia as a savior here, seems to be quite a stretch…
draw defenses there. It was a mistake for them to withdraw when “goodwill of peace deal intentions” were given.
Ukraine (either side really) is not a reliable information source in war.