Following a meeting with world leaders, Starmer has announced a £1.6bn financing package to Ukraine, the creation of a “Coalition of the Willing”, and that a deal to be presented to Trump. He has emphasised:

  • The importance of the US’s participation in the coalition
  • His trust in the US as an ongoing ally to Europe
  • His confidence that a deal will be reached
  • LanaDelRey242@lemmy.worldOP
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    1 day ago

    I think there is a lot more to it than what is being presented. We’re getting the “carrot” version of things, there will almost certainly be a “stick” that will be presented, and Starmer will outline the grave consequences of the USA not cooperating.

    It was interesting that Starmer seemed so confident that Trump would agree. This means either he’s hugely bluffing to put on a show, or the nice guy show to Trump is over and they can get him to bend by force.

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      1 day ago

      with so many foreign troops fighting for russia in ukraine, there is zero justification for european troops not to be fighting with the ukranians as well. zero. every day that uk & france aren’t mobilzing and deploying troops to ukraine is just more european stalling until complete abandonment

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          sure could, but if russia is using foreign troops to fight and kill european ukranians it already is by definition

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            Well yes but it’s a bit different if you have north Koreans Vs Ukrainians or a world war where Russia moves into Poland and China into Taiwan.

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              It’s really only different for two reasons:

              1. That side already has access to nukes.
              2. Russian propaganda.

              France and the UK could absolutely dedicate expeditionary forces.

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              21 hours ago

              Russia isn’t in any way a threat to expand their invasion. If they could simultaneously invade Poland they wouldn’t be struggling so hard to reclaim their own territory, let alone conquer Ukraine. China is the one powerful and expansive enough to worry about.

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      18 hours ago

      What plausible stick could the UK (with or without EU) wield against the US? Pull out of NATO or the Five Eyes? That would hurt them way more than it would hurt the US, and Trump knows they’re too rational to let it happen.

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        16 hours ago

        Re Five Eyes, they should stop helping the USA on that front immediately, as any info given to them will be used to crush internal dissent.