Now’s Your Chance!

Everyone who knows what the Democrats need to do - get thee hence!

  • AmidFuror@fedia.io
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    1 day ago

    Nobody else seems to have the take that when the Democrats ran a woman for President, they lost both times. When they ran men they won, going back to 2008.

    Maybe the country isn’t ready to elect a woman.

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          4 hours ago

          Except that voter sexism isn’t what kept her out of the office. She won the popular vote by 3 million. That means people voted for her. The electoral college is at fault here.

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      8 hours ago

      Funny how female Dem senators won in three of the swing states Kamala lost. Given the limited data, it’s hard to imagine how we could possibly have more evidence that you’re wrong.

      Your dataset is two, and they both ran with very similar strategies of moving right to try to appeal to moderate Republicans. Biden meanwhile had the enormous failure of Covid working to his advantage.

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      22 hours ago

      Stooping to any despicable thing, including sexism, in a desperate attempt to avoid admitting neoliberalism is a loser.

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        22 hours ago

        First, the question itself is not sexist. If I ask if a black candidate didn’t get a job due to discrimination, the question is not racist.

        Second, it’s a legitimate question. You have a narrative that Clinton and Harris lost because they don’t support progressive causes. They could also have lost because many Democrats and fence-sitters have a hard time getting fired up to vote for a woman. Sorry if that doesn’t automatically mean you’ll get what you want next time.

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          7 hours ago

          I think the Democratic Party has only decided the electorate is sexist and that a woman of color can’t win because they want an excuse to shut out AOC in 2028.

          Particularly after how much hay they tried to make during the 2020 primaries about Warren’s accusation that Sanders said she couldn’t win because she’s a woman.

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            5 hours ago

            I see where you are coming from.

            None of that means that the electorate isn’t sexist, though. It definitely is a factor. The debate should be over how much.

            None of that depends on what an old white man did or didn’t say to Elizabeth Warren.

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      21 hours ago

      People are down voting but there was some element of that. People saying shit like “I just can’t see her behind the desk”. That’s either about her gender or her race. I don’t think it lost her the election though.