• Brkdncr@lemmy.world
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    16 days ago

    Not true. Japan was definitely the Bad Guys. US was able to commit more violence then they were.

    • Loss@sh.itjust.works
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      15 days ago

      The US wasn’t the good guys against Japan. They just were slightly less bad for about 5 years before and 6 months after.

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          15 days ago

          Or they know that there weren’t any “Good guys” around.

          The Japanese war crimes are well known in the West. The US ones are routinely glossed over or ignored.

          Wars don’t determine who was right. They determine who’s left.

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            15 days ago

            There are no evidence of US war crimes even coming close to Japan, Germany or Russia at the time or superceding it. Where are the tens of millions of bodies, rammer? Where are they?

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              15 days ago

              You’re joking, right? Nazi Germany wishes they could commit genocide in the scale of the early US.

              • endeavor
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                15 days ago

                True, but that was long ago. If you’re gonna play that game we need to delete every single country except for like a few.

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                  15 days ago

                  Not really, most other countries revolted and enshrined human rights,and even started to try reparations for their crimes. The US doubled down by medically experimenting on the black population after WWII.

                  • endeavor
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                    15 days ago

                    And what of the countries that continued to make a bunch of genocide happen? That happened to be communist? And still are? And still are killing people? They are a bigger problem than what us was.

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              13 days ago

              The 105000 in Tokyo not enough? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Tokyo The 25000 in Dresden not enough? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Dresden The 246000 in Hiroshima and Nagasaki not enough? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_bombings_of_Hiroshima_and_Nagasaki Post war casualties? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties

              But those civilian casualties aren’t in the millions unless you count the post war casualties. That makes the US a “Good guy”. Right?

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                13 days ago

                The good guy in a war is the guy who is better than the bad guy. That’s usually it.

                Keep in mind, at least in Germany the only people “remembering” the Dresden bombing are Nazis. They seek something that relativizes their crimes - and other nation’s war crimes against them that pale in comparison are the way to go. I presume Japanese fascists are similar in that regard.

    • Auli@lemmy.ca
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      14 days ago

      Sure but to Japanese Americans where the bad guys. Which is why the real world is more complicated then a movie but everyone wants to make it black and white.