• lud@lemm.ee
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    12 days ago

    What are they supposed to do?

    The majority voted for Trump. What more is there to discuss?

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        12 days ago

        No, and that’s their fault.

        It’s very unfortunate but that’s the way it is. Deal with it and stop complaining. Find a good way to win the next election instead.

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        12 days ago

        About 36% of eligible voters didn’t vote. That’s not a majority. Can we be accurate with facts here?

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      They could at least stand behind the messaging from the campaign.

      If you call someone a dangerous threat to democracy for a year, and then when they get elected you wish them well and act civil, it really undermines your point about the whole threat to democracy thing.

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        12 days ago

        Exactly. I believe Trump truly is an existential threat to the world and American democracy. To Biden and Harris, it was just campaign jargon.

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        They are a threat because they will do what you want Biden to do.

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        Wall, I for one appreciate when someone acta civil. Especially when they can’t do anything anyway.

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          Because you have no fight in you. Was MLK civil? More than Malcolm, maybe, but no he wasn’t.

          Bernie Sanders has more fight right now than anyone in the upper echelons of the DNC.

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            They weren’t president though.

            Presidents, president candidates, and other persons of similar power should just accept that they lost and not do another trump. That’s unless you want a political climate where every election there are fights regarding who won and a bunch of bullshit childish behaviour.

            Presidents are supposed to be professionals and should act like it and that includes not being a bad loser.

            But by all means you should protest every day of his presidency. But also remember that you guys choose this yourselves.

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              I didn’t choose hitler 2.0, no. I find this complacency you have revolting.

              The correct time to do something about Trump was 4 years ago after January 6th. He should be in prison on sedition.

              The correct time to smile as you hand the keys over is never. And yet, that’s what the democrats are doing.

              No acknowledgment of their colossal failure,
              no acknowledgment of their present unelectibility,
              no acknowledgment of how hard things are about to be for people,
              no leadership about what to do now that our government is owned by X.com,
              no resistance.

              I’m not asking for a second January 6th: do the democrats even care?

              Presidents are supposed to be professionals and should act like it

              I’ll try to remember this as the corpses of Trump’s administration pile up.

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                10 days ago

                If you honestly think that. You should consider moving to another country.

                Or revolt or something.

                I’m not asking for a second January 6th: do the democrats even care?

                What are you asking for then? Should they just frown or make angry comments? Why, what’s the point?

                Sounds like you are just asking for a therapist.

                I’ll try to remember this as the corpses of Trump’s administration pile up.

                Absolutely. It will quite the sight to behold, lol.

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                  What are you asking for then?

                  Literally anything to rebuild public faith.

                  If you haven’t seen it, this was Bernie Sander’s response to Trump’s victory given while Kamala Harris, our last hope, was on vacation.

                  The DNC is so beaurocratic, toothless, and boring that they lost to someone who holds the bible upside down.

                  And why? Because they don’t believe in anything. They’re soulless husks that amber about doing whatever their corporate donors tell them will sell to their demographics right now.

                  What should they do? I’d love to hear one of them present a single fucking idea. Even a bad one.

                  Blue states, round the national guard, project yourself as a safe haven for the would-be deported. Blue in the senate, obstruct and delay as much as possible. Pull the fire alarm, I don’t know. The system has crumbled, act like it.


                  Anyway, I’ve been soapboxing for long enough. You have a good day, man.

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              11 days ago

              Presidents are supposed to be professionals and should act like it and that includes not being a bad loser.

              Apparently, you wrote the rule book and Biden and Harris are following it.

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            12 days ago

            With effort and imagination, insults can be amusing, interesting, outrageous, or profound.Please give us higher-quality insults, or no insults at all.

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      12 days ago

      The majority voted for Trump in a country with voter suppression, gerrymandering, and even terrorist threats against voters / poll workers. I don’t know what to think of that statistic in light of… many exhausting decades of bullshit.

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        12 days ago

        So what? What are they supposed to do?

        Stage an insurrection?

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          Hah can you imagine? I’m just dubious about Trump having a mandate.

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      11 days ago

      A PLURALITY voted for Trump, NOT a majority. Don’t help them with their propaganda

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        11 days ago

        It was a simple majority or relative majority.

        Either way trump got 49,9% while Harris got 48,3% so he absolutely got a major majority if you ignore the ones that would never win anyway.

        And 49,9% is obviously so close to 50% anyways so not rounding is pretty much only pedantic.

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            11 days ago

            Why does that matter? Who cares what those apathetic idiots think?

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              Because using the technically correct word is better and important, especially when dealing with lying, manipulating propagandists who will bully their way as much as possible.

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                People that don’t vote are completely irrelevant in a discussion about an election.

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      Was it truly majority? And is it 100% certain there was no fraud?

      I heard in finland’s news there was somekind of arson attack at some point which destroyed bunch of votes, while the elections were still going but i have no idea how much. I dont think they would fabricate such news.

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        Afaik there is no evidence to the contrary.

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          No evidence as in it has been investigated reliably and nothing was found or as in nothing has been done because there is no obvious evidence?

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            I’m like you, no expert on American elections, but as far as I know no evidence exists which necessitates a more in depth investigation than what’s usual.

            If you search there are loads of attempts by russians to influence the election but none seem to have been very successful. So there has certainly been attempts but there is nothing pointing to any influence great enough to sway the election in any way.

            I assume you were referring to this article earlier: https://www.hs.fi/maailma/art-2000010793845.html

            In the first incident only 3 ballots were damaged and in the later incident roughly 488 were damaged. https://apnews.com/article/ballot-drop-box-fires-portland-vancouver-60fea753ceb761624e6aba49f0e9dd99

            The vast majority of the damaged ballots were able to be identified so replacement ballots could be sent. Only 6 were unidentifiable. A few more may have burned down completely and weren’t even able to be unidentifiable.

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              I just cant believe actual majority of americans would want that idiot in power.