• endeavor
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    23 hours ago

    Are you really asking “provide proofs of a pan I am warned to not heat up too much as the vapours will cause flu like symptoms and kill pet avians is bad for my health.” is bad for you? It is. Why do you think you need to buy new pans every x years? Cause the non-stick layer wears off. Do bits of coating that contain top tier carciogens which are considered safe unless ingested magically vanish into the void? Yes. Except the void is your body.

    I have been relying on my teflons less and less the more I get good with the stainless. I’ve now been making crepes and japanese omlets with less sticking than my few years old teflons.

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      19 hours ago

      Afaik the coating is not a carcinogen only under certain circumstances like high heat can it produce something unsafe but even there it’s just potential, not yet proved to be carcinogenic but feel free to prove me wrong.

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        17 hours ago

        https://www.cancer.org/cancer/risk-prevention/chemicals/teflon-and-perfluorooctanoic-acid-pfoa.html It says it ssafe since it’s tightly bound to the pan. I guess its true, its completely 100% safe. After all, there is no reason for anyone who owns a non stick pan to ever buy a new one since they keep being nonstick for generations, right? Surely even if you treat your pan just as they say, it means the coating doesn’t wear off, right? And us educated people we know once something wears via abrasion it means it leaves behind no residue, right?

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          15 hours ago

          Are we reading the same article? It doesn’t say it’s bound to the pan. Why bother to choose a source that you don’t read and disagrees with you?

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            6 hours ago

            It is bound to the pan. It is the non stick layer.

            Now, do non stick pans stay non stick forever? Why do non stick pans fail to stay non stick? What happens to the non stick coating and where does it go when it is no longer bound to the pan?

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              4 hours ago

              I’m out of my element here but my understanding is that the chemicals in the FDA article are not the non stick layer, it was used in creating it and is bound to it. While I wouldn’t suggest eating it (the coating) and can be harmful when heated to levels uncommon (but not impossible) in a kitchen environment there’s no proof that teflon dishes can increase the chance of cancer.

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                36 minutes ago

                No proof for now but everything causes cancer.