• MonkeMischief@lemmy.today
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    1 day ago

    This is a pretty sane explanation.

    I’m also at least partially convinced that it’s motivated by our social media giants’ interest to “think of the children” their competition away.

    Seeing as the order was basically “Get bought by an American corpo or get banned.” They either plunder the competitor’s insane data collection, userbase, and profits, or kick them off their corner.

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      24 hours ago

      You can also see it as retribution.

      “Get bought by a Chinese entity or get banned” is the default posture of the Chinese government. BMW China is Chinese. Samsung China is Chinese. Panasonic China is Chinese. GM China is Chinese. If TikTok US is forced to be American, it wouldn’t be the most unfair thing this week.

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          12 hours ago

          Well, let’s set the bar at not having concentration camps or not going to jail or being made “dissappear” for criticizing the government. For now…

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            9 hours ago

            I’m not sure that’s a bar you even clear, given the ice “detention centres” you set up domestically and places like abu ghraib or Gitmo you run on foreign soil. And as for criticising the government, what’s the practical use if a felon and a billionaire can rig your election without any repercussions anyway?

            “I can call trump a criminal online, that’s freedom right there!”

            “Will he actually be arrested?”

            “Well no, but it feels good to say it”

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              8 hours ago

              I don’t know who is this “you” person mentioned, but I’m thankfully not American and my country has done nothing of sorts.

              Plus people are not tortured even in ice centers. Gitmo is another story, but those are war crimes, not genocide. I know, weird argument, but I like to be precise m

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                8 hours ago

                People aren’t tortured with an iron maiden, but when you have conditions like under trump in 2020, and the suicide rate in ice detention jumped 11 times higher than the previous 10 year average, I don’t think you can suggest ice detention is that far away from concentration camps.

                Also, Gitmo isn’t for enemy combatants - they can chuck anyone suspected of terrorism in there, even US citizens. It most definitely isn’t exclusively “war crimes”.

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                  7 hours ago

                  Negligence (and even cruelty) is different from literal torture and (allegedly) extermination of an ethnic/religious group.

                  Also, gitmo holds hundreds of people, not hundreds of thousands.