Vegans being banned and comments being deleted from !vegan@lemmy.world for being fake vegans.

From my perspective, the comments were in no way insulting and just part of completely normal interaction. If this decision reflects the general opinion of the mod team, then from my perspective, the biggest vegan community on Lemmy wants to be an elitist cycle of hardcore vegans only, not allowing any slightly different opinion. Which would be very unfortunate.

PS: In contrast to the name of this community, I don’t want to insult anyone here being a ‘bastard’. I just want to post this somewhere on neutral ground. I would really appreciate an open discussion without bashing anyone.

Linking the affected users and mods: @Cypher@lemmy.world @gaael@lemmy.world @gredo@lemmy.world @iiGxC@slrpnk.net @veganpizza69@lemmy.world @veganpizza69@lemmy.vg @jerkface@lemmy.ca @TheTechnician27@lemmy.world @Sunshine@lemmy.ca @Aqua@lemmy.vg

  • arcane potato (she/they)@vegantheoryclub.orgEnglish
    238·
    10 hours ago

    So, last time people were mad that vegans were mean to them this community got created:

    https://lemmy.world/c/plantbased

    Edit: I should finish my coffee before posting, the only post there literally points to this more active com lol: https://lemmy.world/c/plantbased@lemmy.dbzer0.com

    See: https://lemmy.world/post/23634881

    We all know r/vegan exists and is a cesspit of carnists, but there doesn’t seem to be an actual demand for a ‘plant based’ space. I’m not sure why people would post about something they are kind of meh and not committed to?

    If people are interested in just the food, there are communities for that:

    I really don’t think the rules there are onerous. Just don’t talk about abusing animals and don’t be a jerk to the other posters and you’re good?

    • ComradeMiao@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      352·
      9 hours ago

      Hey, I didn’t make plantbased to be a less committed version to veganism. I made it because from reddit to lemmy every vegan community I’ve encountered has power tripping toxic mods and I wanted to provide an alternative space.

      I’m fully committed to my veganism. But I also wanted people who aren’t to be able to discuss it without being attacked.

      After I wrote this I see you’re writing from a vegan instance. I have less experience with there versus vegan communities around here.

      • fartsparkles@sh.itjust.works
        232·
        8 hours ago

        The hardcore/toxic crowd do nothing except alienate and turn people against the cause and make people think being vegan means being surrounded by assholes.

        It’s people like you that welcome everyone into the discussion that inspire more people to try it out; you’re bringing about the real change.

        • NaevaTheRat [she/her]@vegantheoryclub.orgEnglish
          21·
          50 minutes ago

          Lol, every vegan I know which includes a chunk of my own family went vegan because of militant vegans.

          I see lots of carnists with no intention of going vegan talk about how militant vegans are bad but I have never actually met someone who is vegan and stays vegan that found wishy washy people motivating or inspiring.

      • Clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        10·
        7 hours ago

        I’m not even a vegetarian but I am slowly trending y’all’s direction. Finding good recipes or product recommendations is key to getting my family to come along with me.

        I appreciate being, if not welcomed, at least quietly tolerated!

        • ComradeMiao@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
          61·
          3 hours ago

          I view that as a net positive :) trying to force people to change in one moment will never succeed.

          You’re more than welcome! I view it as a space to learn and explore, not to be judged by what level vegan you are lol

          The only thing I’ve moderated recently is people pushing meat in the community or being rude.

      • arcane potato (she/they)@vegantheoryclub.orgEnglish
        103·
        9 hours ago

        I should clarify: when I refer to people who aren’t committed to veganism I am referring to the same people you are referring to when you say “people who aren’t”, i.e. the non vegans discussing veganism.

    • Plum@lemmy.world
      21·
      6 hours ago

      I’m apparently banned from vegan theory club. I have no idea what I could have done to them.