@Buffalox Here in Europe, 18 is generally considered the adulthood age, beyond which you can get a license, you can vote, you can buy property, you have full responsibility of yourself in front of the law etc. - so it would be something along those lines.
I personally didn’t feel that adult at that age either, though…
It is interesting looking at adult age through out history. I’m not even a historian. Females have been considered adults as young as 10, and males as young as 12 (just that I’m aware of). On the other extreme males have been considered kids as old as 50 (Romans your dad decided or he died, so I support a 3 year old male may have been an adult. I’m not sure how they treated females other than they were a very sexist society)
@Buffalox@Cephalotrocity conscription is immoral. If a cause is right and just you should be able to find volunteers. If you can’t find volunteers perhaps you should rethink your mission.
@Cephalotrocity you are incorrect. The market has decided that it is not right nor just or they would have volunteers. Russia also is not right nor just. War is a racket.
@fu Not a single state is fully moral. And not a single person does only moral choices during their entire life. Sometimes the most immoral choices are the right thing to do to achieve a just cause.
I always thought 18 seemed low, seems to me like an attempt to get them young and naive, and easier to mold.
21 should be the earliest IMO.
@Buffalox Here in Europe, 18 is generally considered the adulthood age, beyond which you can get a license, you can vote, you can buy property, you have full responsibility of yourself in front of the law etc. - so it would be something along those lines.
I personally didn’t feel that adult at that age either, though…
@Cephalotrocity
Adulthood is very subjective.
@petrescatraian @Buffalox @Cephalotrocity get a license for what?
@fu driving license. You cannot get a driving license until you’re 18.
@Buffalox @Cephalotrocity
Any adult thing requiring a license. Operating most vehicles, owning firearms, Run a business, etc…
It is interesting looking at adult age through out history. I’m not even a historian. Females have been considered adults as young as 10, and males as young as 12 (just that I’m aware of). On the other extreme males have been considered kids as old as 50 (Romans your dad decided or he died, so I support a 3 year old male may have been an adult. I’m not sure how they treated females other than they were a very sexist society)
@Buffalox @Cephalotrocity conscription is immoral. If a cause is right and just you should be able to find volunteers. If you can’t find volunteers perhaps you should rethink your mission.
Your premise is flawed:
If your reasoning is that flawed you should rethink your allegiance to cowardice or russia, or both.
@Cephalotrocity you are incorrect. The market has decided that it is not right nor just or they would have volunteers. Russia also is not right nor just. War is a racket.
Says a lot that you use the market to decide what is right or just.
Edit: and they do have volunteers. For example, this is just for international volunteers
conscription is also necessary to solve for game theory in many cases
@fu Not a single state is fully moral. And not a single person does only moral choices during their entire life. Sometimes the most immoral choices are the right thing to do to achieve a just cause.
@Buffalox @Cephalotrocity
@petrescatraian @Buffalox @Cephalotrocity
there I fixed it for you.
this is the most bat shit crazy thing I have ever heard. Two wrongs never make a right mate.
@fu well, in math two values with minus added get you a vallue with plus ;)
@Buffalox @Cephalotrocity
… multiplied. 2 negatives multiplied equals a positive.
@Cephalotrocity exactly, my bad