• VerbFlow@lemmy.world
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    10 hours ago

    You know what? Everyone deserves freedom of speech, and threatening healthcare CEOs is not, in my opinion, a breach of it. There is a huge difference between threatening vulnerable minorities and threatening invulnerable minorities.

    • CleoTheWizard@lemmy.world
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      9 hours ago

      Doesn’t a threat have to be credible? As in you can make a threat if you’d like to but it has to actually be a legitimate threat. This isn’t that.

      Realistically unless someone says this phrase and has google searches of the CEOs home address, this isn’t a credible threat at all.

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        7 hours ago

        You have to make sure you make threats so outlandish that you couldn’t possibly execute them, like “I’m going to grab Trump by the ankle and spin around really fast, and then let go, launching him directly into the sun”

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          Maybe if we start a rumor that’s there’s billions of exploitable people on Pluto all the rich CEO’s will race each other there, die like the ones in that shitty submarine and leave us the fuck alone.

          Happy ending.

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      9 hours ago

      “Freedom of speech” in US Law means that the government cannot suppress ideas, expressions, or beliefs so long as those ideas or beliefs do not harm specific peoples, nor negatively impact public health and morals, nor negatively impact national security. In some cases, it isn’t allowed to promote harm of protected classes including race, religion, skin color, gender, or disability, but in the USA that often becomes a civil matter.

      If I had my way we’d be even more strict about it: hate speech would be an actual crime and sexual orientations would also be protected classes.

      So a woman quoting a murderer who assassinated an insurance company CEO, directly sending that quote to the insurance company that denied her claim, is not and will never be covered by freedom of speech.

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    9 hours ago

    Did she say she was running for the presidency? Because in that case, she could take someone out on main street and she could grab them by the pussy too and nobody would say anything.

    She should have tried to purchase a president or maybe purchase the presidency itself for a self pardon.

    Joe should pardon her wtf Joe!

    • NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml
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      10 hours ago

      The thing about Jury Nullification is that you have to make it through the majority of a trial. 97-98% of criminal cases (in the U.S.) end in a plea deal without ever going to trial.

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    Of course not, but they’re going to make an example out of her to deter the rest of the proles.

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        16 hours ago

        There is zero chance anyone in a power position in the US can grasp these terms and their real life ramifications.

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          Unfortunately that’s my conclusion as well. They’ll do this and congratulate themselves on teaching those poors a lesson. In better language I’m sure but that’s the core meaning. And while they’re doing that the “poors” are going to be making protest signs, at the very least.

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    This reminds me of Minority Report. Arrested by the pre-crime unit.

    Guilty without the crime actually being committed.

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      16 hours ago

      If her crime is threatening then that actually is what she did, in the past.

      The punishment of 15 years is just way over the top

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        That’s not what she did. There are legal standards for what constitutes a threat, and what she said isn’t one.

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    She absolutely does not deserve that. Isn’t America the home of free speech? I guess not for the plebs!

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      I don’t think that’s right. She’s been released on bond to house arrest; the charges still stand.

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    We should erect a giant bronze statue of Luigi. Put it in a road right near UHC’s headquarters in Minnesota. Make them all drive past it each and every day on the way to work.