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    Fox is centrist, but every other mass media outlet is far to the left of them. And Fox publishes whatever gets clicks, including Trump stories.

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      Fox is only centrist by American conservative standards. The positions they support are considered far-right by most of the developed world outside of the middle-east and china.

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        Perhaps — I have no idea about the rest of the world — but Fox serves an American audience, so that’s the context in which it’s appropriate to evaluate it.

        As a conservative, when I look at the Fox News website, I typically think all of the following: A) these stories are notably well-balanced compared to the other mass media outlets, B) man, they publish some really stupid articles on this site, C) Why do the articles all have huge videos that are completely unrelated to the articles on top of them?, and D) Yikes, the comment section sure does feature some openly racist remarks sometimes.

        But outside of Fox, in the US, there are generally two types of news organizations: large-and-leftist and tiny-and-conservative.

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          I have no idea about the rest of the world

          I believe it. What I’m saying is that from your insular experience you wouldn’t realize that what you consider “centrist” is actually “far-right”.

          In reality the largest news organization in America is “far-right” with some smaller extremist-right orgs. What you consider “leftist” is actually “centrist” by developed-nation standards. You can go on calling it what ever you like but it has no basis in reality outside of conservative echo chambers.

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            That can be true or false. I neither know nor care. I’m sorry to be dismissive, and I don’t mean to be rude. You’re just trying to make a point that seems irrelevant to me. I’m sure it’s meaningful to you, but it’s not to me.

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              No, I get it. You are not going to let facts get in the way of your conclusions. You don’t sound dismissive you seem uninformed. That’s fine and on brand with the positions you’ve shared.

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                I understand that some citizens of various other countries see themselves as part of an interconnected global world, where countries are fungible. And to be fair, a few Americans think that too. But in reality the US is far removed from all other countries, and we’re blessed with being the greatest country possible, so a foreign perspective really doesn’t impact us at all.

                So you’re right to say I’m uninformed — indeed we all are, somewhat, depending on the holes in our areas of focus — but you’re wrong to say my conclusions are not based on facts. Because my conclusions are entirely factual within the context of the US.

                If I’m incorrect outside of that context, well okay, I’ll take your word on that. But so? It just seems like such an irrelevant point to make.

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                  and we’re blessed with being the greatest country possible

                  By what metric? Name one metric that US is number one in other than defense spending.

                  you’re wrong to say my conclusions are not based on facts

                  You cannot back up a single thing you say; all you offer are personal anecdotes. I guess your point would be that you’re not informed enough to know the difference? That doesn’t make you correct it makes you ignorant. And that’s fine, not everyone can be informed, just don’t pretend that you are.

                  I’m cracking up that you’re now downvoting my comments after writing:

                  I enjoy mutually respectful debate, but I find most others prefer to fearfully call me a “fascist,” downvote everything I’ve ever written, block me, and walk away feeling sanctimonious.

                  Feeling sanctimonious, yet?

                  Please continue dazzling me with you personal anecdotes from the butt-crack of America.

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                    Ha, it’s not fascist to click downvote. You wrote something I believed to be false, so I downvoted. If it really hurts your feelings I can take it back. I do enjoy mutually respectful debate. I don’t think a downvote is all that disrespectful, and I also don’t think we’re having much of a debate. (What’s the topic exactly?)

                    By what metric?

                    By a ton of metrics, but a few that come to mind off the top of my head:

                    • We’re predominantly Christian, and that’s not an official religion like in some other countries, but actual self-reported religious affiliation.
                    • People flock here from all over the world for our freedom, and always have since our inception.
                    • Our Constitution was the first to establish that God-given rights are the basis for a free people’s self-governance, and that constitution has been imitated worldwide, though never paralleled.
                    • Our culture of self-defense makes us impossible to invade, because most people are armed and more than ready to take down attackers.
                    • We invented almost every useful technology that has been invented since our inception, including this here internet and the electrical generators that power it.
                    • We invented country music. 'Nuff said.
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                  and we’re blessed with being the greatest country possible

                  Lol, this person has to be a troll or completely delusional.