• czech@kbin.social
    3·
    1 year ago

    I have no idea about the rest of the world

    I believe it. What I’m saying is that from your insular experience you wouldn’t realize that what you consider “centrist” is actually “far-right”.

    In reality the largest news organization in America is “far-right” with some smaller extremist-right orgs. What you consider “leftist” is actually “centrist” by developed-nation standards. You can go on calling it what ever you like but it has no basis in reality outside of conservative echo chambers.

    • 10A@kbin.social
      1·
      1 year ago

      That can be true or false. I neither know nor care. I’m sorry to be dismissive, and I don’t mean to be rude. You’re just trying to make a point that seems irrelevant to me. I’m sure it’s meaningful to you, but it’s not to me.

      • czech@kbin.social
        1·
        1 year ago

        No, I get it. You are not going to let facts get in the way of your conclusions. You don’t sound dismissive you seem uninformed. That’s fine and on brand with the positions you’ve shared.

        • 10A@kbin.social
          1·
          1 year ago

          I understand that some citizens of various other countries see themselves as part of an interconnected global world, where countries are fungible. And to be fair, a few Americans think that too. But in reality the US is far removed from all other countries, and we’re blessed with being the greatest country possible, so a foreign perspective really doesn’t impact us at all.

          So you’re right to say I’m uninformed — indeed we all are, somewhat, depending on the holes in our areas of focus — but you’re wrong to say my conclusions are not based on facts. Because my conclusions are entirely factual within the context of the US.

          If I’m incorrect outside of that context, well okay, I’ll take your word on that. But so? It just seems like such an irrelevant point to make.

          • czech@kbin.social
            2·
            1 year ago

            and we’re blessed with being the greatest country possible

            By what metric? Name one metric that US is number one in other than defense spending.

            you’re wrong to say my conclusions are not based on facts

            You cannot back up a single thing you say; all you offer are personal anecdotes. I guess your point would be that you’re not informed enough to know the difference? That doesn’t make you correct it makes you ignorant. And that’s fine, not everyone can be informed, just don’t pretend that you are.

            I’m cracking up that you’re now downvoting my comments after writing:

            I enjoy mutually respectful debate, but I find most others prefer to fearfully call me a “fascist,” downvote everything I’ve ever written, block me, and walk away feeling sanctimonious.

            Feeling sanctimonious, yet?

            Please continue dazzling me with you personal anecdotes from the butt-crack of America.

            • 10A@kbin.social
              2·
              1 year ago

              Ha, it’s not fascist to click downvote. You wrote something I believed to be false, so I downvoted. If it really hurts your feelings I can take it back. I do enjoy mutually respectful debate. I don’t think a downvote is all that disrespectful, and I also don’t think we’re having much of a debate. (What’s the topic exactly?)

              By what metric?

              By a ton of metrics, but a few that come to mind off the top of my head:

              • We’re predominantly Christian, and that’s not an official religion like in some other countries, but actual self-reported religious affiliation.
              • People flock here from all over the world for our freedom, and always have since our inception.
              • Our Constitution was the first to establish that God-given rights are the basis for a free people’s self-governance, and that constitution has been imitated worldwide, though never paralleled.
              • Our culture of self-defense makes us impossible to invade, because most people are armed and more than ready to take down attackers.
              • We invented almost every useful technology that has been invented since our inception, including this here internet and the electrical generators that power it.
              • We invented country music. 'Nuff said.
              • czech@kbin.social
                2·
                1 year ago

                You didn’t list a single thing America is #1 in. Is there a single thing other than defense spending?

                All of your “metrics” are either not true or not metrics. That is amazing.

                • 10A@kbin.social
                  2·
                  1 year ago

                  This interaction is done. You’re obviously not a fan of the US, and if you don’t live here anyway then you have every right not to be. It’s no skin off my back. I wish you all the best. See ya around.

                  • czech@kbin.social
                    3·
                    1 year ago

                    I’m just asking for facts not biased nationalism. I’m not sure what I expected.

          • auken@kbin.social
            1·
            1 year ago

            and we’re blessed with being the greatest country possible

            Lol, this person has to be a troll or completely delusional.